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  1. Wrangler

    Understanding the Trinity.

    They didn't respond to this when you mentioned it before and I doubt they will now for it makes them look foolish. They cannot acknowledge this great verse - unless they apply they same duality rational they did to John 17:3. Just because Jesus plainly states, "the true worshipers shall worship...
  2. Wrangler

    Understanding the Trinity.

    The KJV's most notorious corruption. This is not what this verse says in actuality.
  3. Wrangler

    Understanding the Trinity.

    So, by your standard, merely mentioning them makes them a 3-person-1-being God? If so, you must accept we have a 7-being-1 being God @ Rev 1:4. Grace and peace to you from the one who is, who always was, and who is still to come; from the sevenfold Spirit before his throne And at the same time...
  4. Wrangler

    Why People Don't Believe: Sex & Time

    Agreed. That is not the point. The point is how do you reconcile the prohibition against homosexuality with men comprising some of the Bride & Wife of Christ?
  5. Wrangler

    Understanding the Trinity.

    Figurative language is what you are denying. Explicit language you are also denying. John tells us explicitly in 20:31 that nothing he wrote can be used to support the notion that Jesus is God incarnate because everything he wrote was to support that Jesus is God's Anointed.
  6. Wrangler

    Jehovah is either God or He is not, correct?

    This is one reason I like the VOICE translation; it makes explicit who is doing the talking. It is Jehovah or the LORD or God speaking. What I find strange is the absence of comma's: Ex 20:5 ESV: I the LORD your God am a jealous God In modern English would be I, the LORD your God, am a...
  7. Wrangler

    Understanding the Trinity.

    Agreed. Well said.
  8. Wrangler

    Understanding the Trinity.

    Because we see the hierarchical relationship in 1 Cor 11:3 - with no mention of the HS, etc.
  9. Wrangler

    Understanding the Trinity.

    LOL See how trinitarians are forced to rely on vague verses to support your doctrine? I believe completely Jesus is the ‘He’ who he explicitly said he was at Mark 14:61-62, ‘I am’ to the question of being not God incarnate but God’s Anointed, the Liberating King,the Son of the Blessed One...
  10. Wrangler

    Understanding the Trinity.

    No, it wasn’t. Proof is you doubling down on it below. Well, since your view is a minority on Earth you should question it based on your own logic of appealing to majority.
  11. Wrangler

    Jehovah is either God or He is not, correct?

    No. It's just that trinitarians assert singular pronouns refer to 3.
  12. Wrangler

    Understanding the Trinity.

    There was already a brilliant analysis posted in this thread of agency. I suggest you read it. If I use my sister's key, that does not make me my sister. This is the absurd rationalization trinitarians must adopt to work around the fact that the trinity is not in the Bible. There simply is no...
  13. Wrangler

    Understanding the Trinity.

    100% Contradiction. Duality "also" is the basis of trinitarianism. John 20:31 clearly states that nothing in his Gospel can be used to prove that Jesus is God as all of his Gospel is to prove something else; namely, that Jesus is the Son of God. But there is that temptation to appeal to...
  14. Wrangler

    Church Bashing

    So, our Savior was attempting to deceive us when he said not all who call him Lord will be saved but only those who obey? Milk. The meat is that salvation comes with a price - such as not bashing churches. Ephesians 4:29.
  15. Wrangler

    Understanding the Trinity.

    Even using your numbers, Christianity is not a majority. Using your logic, Christianity cannot be right either. Funny how you ignore the flaw in your logic.
  16. Wrangler

    Understanding the Trinity.

    This is not the trinity doctrine and the trinity is nowhere found in this verse. Desperate try but we both know you got nothing and must reach to ‘support’ you doctrine.
  17. Wrangler

    Understanding the Trinity.

    The Apostles forgave sins. Does that make them God?
  18. Wrangler

    firend in hispotal

    Praying for you and your friend.
  19. Wrangler

    Church Bashing

    Milk. No one ever said our hope was anything else but our savior. Meat. We have the burden to die daily for Christ. It means sanctification is the price we pay once we are saved, to abandon the old, sinful life. Jesus did not die so we could remain untransformed. What did our savior save us...
  20. Wrangler

    Understanding the Trinity.

    The trinity is not in the Bible.