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  1. Wrangler

    Rebuking v Personally Attacking

    Like when the Holy Spirit killed a couple for lying about giving all the proceeds to the church. I suppose "nice" or kindness has to be tempered with holy and just. I submit we would not worship a god who need not be feared. Again, the question is how to rebuke in a way that is not personally...
  2. Wrangler

    Rebuking v Personally Attacking

    Many of Jesus' most provocative parables were in terms of win/lose scenario. The Pharisee's certainly did not like being compared to what Jesus compared them to. The win/lose scenario I like to use is in terms of a better scenario. To see the compelling advantages of another scenario is perhaps...
  3. Wrangler

    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    I stepped in, yes. However, the rest of your sentence/accusation is simply not true. We simply disagree on your interpretation of Scripture - in light of other Scripture. Oh, no you don't! I brought up Scripture that supports what Pearl said. Respond to that. Specifically, explain to us...
  4. Wrangler

    Rebuking v Personally Attacking

    Recently, a few new members started politically oriented threads. In those threads, some posts were thought to be personally attacking. And that experience motivated this thread. It seems to me this touches on the broader topic of rebuking, which is in Scripture, while not personally attacking...
  5. Wrangler

    HERESY?

    An Appeal to Strawman is a logical fallacy where one re-states his opponents argument in weaker terms - then attacks that weaker argument. The metaphor is like fighting with a scare crow rather than an actual man. To be a Christian does NOT mean you believe he is God. To be a Christian is to...
  6. Wrangler

    HERESY?

    Loving others. The simple Gospel of Christ. It's really too simple and too hard for us. Too simple philosophically and too hard practically. So, we invent doctrinal complexity to hide behind. We make universal agreement on the doctrine we make up a pre-requisite to loving others. This is a...
  7. Wrangler

    Understanding the Trinity.

    As God delegated this power to Christ, he delegated this power to the Apostles. Doesn’t make them God.
  8. Wrangler

    HERESY?

    It’s just a definition thing. I’m OK with being a heretic, not a Christian or whatever term you want to proscribe to my beliefs that don’t align with yours. Funny that for one reason, you want to call me not a Christian but suppose more than one reason is necessary to be a heretic.
  9. Wrangler

    HERESY?

    Strawman. A Christian has something to due with God’s Anointed. This is why they are not called Peterians or Godians.
  10. Wrangler

    HERESY?

    I said they call themselves Christian. The question of salvation is besides the point. This is nowhere in Scripture! I am a unitarian Christian who accepts God's Word that Jesus is the Son of God, making him, by definition, not God. Not sure why you want the authority to dictate to people...
  11. Wrangler

    HERESY?

    Yes, much in the same logical way that except for all the ways that I sin, I am not a sinner.
  12. Wrangler

    HERESY?

    At my church, we are in communion with our God, not 100% doctrinal purity with others. RCC are perfectly invited to share in communion at our church and all those who call Jesus lord and savior. See the difference?
  13. Wrangler

    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    Friend, @Pearl is a beloved and well-respected member of this online community who has never written an inflammatory post that I've seen. So, I don't know why you are picking a fight with her. If she says she choose Jesus, that's good enough for me. This idea that she is, thereby, claiming to...
  14. Wrangler

    HERESY?

    They call themselves Christian. They read and follow the Bible. That's good enough for me.
  15. Wrangler

    HERESY?

    Yea, the "supported" by Scripture is not the same thing as an explicit teaching. One leader called explicit teachings "dogma" and denominational "doctrine" as that which is merely "supported." An example of dogma, explicit teaching in Scripture is that man was created on the 6th day. An...
  16. Wrangler

    HERESY?

    I respect Steve Ciocalanti. His point was to reserve the inflammatory word usage for what really matters. Otherwise, every denomination is a heretic to ones own and such language is not conducive to unity. Yes, absolutely. It makes them heretical by definition. When my former pastor's husband...
  17. Wrangler

    HERESY?

    I was raised RCC. Protestants were not allowed to even share communion and that was put in writing in every pew. The reason was the Protestants heretical view of not acknowledging the RCC as our mediator to Christ. Maybe they are not advertising that these days but I doubt they changed their...
  18. Wrangler

    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    Wow! The inflammatory planets must be aligned this week.
  19. Wrangler

    The “immortal” jellyfish

    LOL. Life. Death. Not too nuanced.
  20. Wrangler

    The “immortal” jellyfish

    Putting aside how you come to that conclusion, implied is that you are convicted in using what you deem to be Satan's technology.