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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    A few shall be left

    LOL. I'm trying to reconcile it while you make the passages contradict each other. You can't have one new earth with sin and death occurrong in ot and one without sin and death occurring on it. John is very clear that when the new heavens and new earth are ushered in "there shall be no more...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    LOL. This is your problem. You don't think spiritual discernment from the Holy Spirit is required to interpret these things. It's just all based on common sense. Any random unbelievers on the street can interpret scripture the same way you do using common sense. LOL. What are you even saying...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    Clearly, it doesn't come up from the pit until the 42 months/1260 days ends first. That is how it is able to kill the two witnesses which it couldn't do prior to coming up from the pit. Total nonsense. What you are saying is not what is indicated in Matthew 25:31-46 at all. You make that...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    Agree. Another thing we can do to show the timing of Revelation 20 is to compare these two passages: Revelation 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    A few shall be left

    You just make scripture say what you want it to say. Where does it say that Isaiah 65:20 doesn't apply to Jerusalem? Also, why do you interpret Isaiah 65:17-25 in such a way that contradicts Revelation 21:1-4 which says there will be no more death when the new heavens and new earth are ushered...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    A few shall be left

    Yes, and I showed how your interpretations of Isaiah 65:17-25 and 2 Peter 3:7-13 can't possibly be accurate and your response to that is silence. You are apparently too afraid to address how your interpretation of Isaiah 65:17-25 contradicts 2 Peter 3:13 and Revelation 21:1-4. You are apparently...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    They were brought in to the church by way of the blood of Christ. Moses and Elijah were talking to Jesus at His transfiguration, but you want to try to claim they are not in His church? All believers from all-time belong to Him and are now in His church. You are not even thinking here. Is there...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    LOL. What are you even saying? The beast of Revelation 11 is the same beast of Revelation 13. Figures you'd try to change scripture to make it fit your doctrine as you do often. You didn't even address my argument. Revelation 11 shows the beast ascending from the bottomless pit after the 42...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    LOL! As if we haven't already done so in great detail. Good one. This is just a flat out lie. We quote and exegete scripture far more than premils do and you know it. What a stupid and foolish thing to say. You do not accept what scripture explicitly teaches. Like the Pharisees did, you demand...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    You are being shown that the gates of hell prevailing against the church have nothing to do with physical martyrdom. They can kill our bodies, but not our souls. I guess that doesn't mean anything to you. LOL. I didn't say it can. It won't. But, I was talking about what would be true even if it...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    You're just making things up. The gates of hell will never prevail against the church because Jesus said so (Matthew 16:18). The church does not ever need to be taken off of the earth in order for that to be the case. You are making that up. LOL. This can't be taken seriously. The church...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    A few shall be left

    Amen. I'm asking him what it is about these supposed few mortal unbelievers that he thinks will survive that would allow them to survive, but not the rest of the unbelievers and he won't address that. How can we take that seriously if he can't explain why they would be allowed to survive but not...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    A few shall be left

    Notice in verse 19 it says "the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying". So, you expect us to believe that people will die at that point, but no one will mourn their deaths. You expect that to be taken seriously, do you? Why would no one mourn anyone's death...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    A few shall be left

    One verse? LOL. Hardly. You obviously are not prepared to defend your doctrine if that's all you have. Show me where it says those who survive are mortal unbelievers. You can't even tell me why any mortal unbeliever would be allowed to survive His return despite scripture telling us He will take...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    Why don't you explain the beast ascending out of the pit only when the 42 months/1260 days have ended? How do you reconcile that with your interpretation of Revelation 13 which has the beast ascending out of the pit at the beginning of the 42 months instead? Revelation 11:2 But the court which...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    It's pretty clear by now that nothing we can do will ever satisfy you, so why should we bother with this? Do you somehow not know that we (WPM and I in particular) have addressed this with you many times already in the past? Do you imagine that we'll say anything different this time than we've...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    Yes, and I agree. What you don't understand is He is taking that place to us. We will meet Him in the air and will be forever with the Lord after that. He will destroy His enemies at that time and then the judgment will take place in eternity. We will be with Him forever in the new heavens and...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    I'm illustrating how your understanding of the gates of hell prevailing is flawed. If it can't even prevail against one Christian by way of killing that person, then you should see that it can't prevail against the church itself even if it killed all believers in the church because the gates of...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    LOL. What is the basis for you saying that those called "saints" in Revelation 13:7 can't be the church then? There is no basis for that since saints are always part of the church. Your argument is the one that is foolish and my argument addresses it directly. You are coming up with total...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    Do you seriously think I was questioning that? LOL! No, I'm saying where is it taught that we would then be taken to heaven after meeting Him in the air? That isn't taught anywhere in scripture. If that was going to happen, why wouldn't we just be caught up straight to heaven? What is the point...