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Not about Jesus? It's ALL about Jesus and what He would do for Daniel's people. Do you somehow miss the two references to the Messiah in Daniel 9:24-27? How else can reconciliation for iniquity be made apart from Jesus? Hebrews 2:17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto...

Yes, exactly. So, that was not the last thing in the list to be fulfilled, but rather the first, right? So, why is it that you said this: You proceeded to show your understanding of that "logical progression" and you had the anointing of the most Holy last in order in that progression. That...

Why can't the few who survive be those who are alive and remain (are left) that Paul references in 1 Thess 4:14-17? Why does it have to be mortal unbelievers? Who exactly are these mortal unbelievers that you believe will survive Christ's return? 2 Thessalonians 1:7 And to you who are troubled...

Show me where this is taught in scripture. Jesus compared the trib/wrath that will occur at His coming to what happened with the flood in Noah's day and the fire that came down on Sodom in Lot's day. How many people became believers during the flood? How about when the fire came down on Sodom?

I disagreed that the six things had to be fulfilled in any certain order. I didn't know you were saying they were all fulfilled by Christ. What is your understanding of the anointing of the most Holy exactly then? Just some miscommunication then. It looks like we actually agree on how Daniel...

Exactly. The only other verse where those words "tereo" and "ek" are used together is this one: John 17:15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep (tereo) them from (ek) the evil. How could Revelation 3:10 possibly have anything to do with being...

The real issue, as I see it, is not him comparing Noah being on to the ark with the rapture, but rather him not acknowledging that Jesus indicated that just as all unbelievers who were left off of the ark were killed, all unbelievers who are left behind and not caught up to Christ when He comes...

What do you not understand about that? Do you believe He didn't fulfill all those six things? You were agreeing with the contention that they all needed to be fulfilled in order, were you not? I am saying that is not the case. I am NOT saying Jesus didn't fulfill them. See my post #4. He was...

You obviously didn't read any of my previous posts. Please read post #4 in this thread to see how I interpret Daniel 9:24. He fulfilled them all. I'm simply saying there was no requirement for them to be fulfilled in the order they are listed in Daniel 9:24. He fulfilled all of them. Again...

This 1 year day of the Lord thing is complete nonsense. The following passages describe what will happen on the day of the Lord. Show me how the "sudden destruction" that will occur on the day of the Lord can possibly last for 1 year. It's not so sudden destruction in your view. 1 Thessalonians...

Hello? Did you forget that I already refuted this false claim when you said this before? Keep reading from there... Revelation 19:4 And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshipped God that sat on the throne, saying, Amen; Alleluia. 5 And a voice came out of the...

I've noticed that you have never once made a coherent argument supporting your false doctrine. Your arguments are all extremely weak. Using Revelation 3:10 to support your pre-trib belief? LOL! If that's the best you can offer then you clearly have nothing to offer from scripture to support your...

Since when are believers not allowed to experience temptation? What a joke this is. Christians have been in the world experiencing temptation for almost 2,000 years now, but for some reason God is going to decide that His people can't go through temptation anymore? This can't be taken seriously...

Correct. Your doctrine is a convoluted mess. We all believe this. Being kept from the hour of trial has to do with being protected during it and has nothing to do with being taken off of the earth. When your doctrine is built off of taking verses like Revelation 3:10 out of context then you...

So, you make a distinction between "the Israel of God" and the nation of Israel, right? But, in your view, the Israel of God is comprised of Jewish Christians. Why do you completely ignore the fact that the blood of Christ brought Jew and Gentile Christians together as one (Ephesians 2:11-3:6)...

LOL. What utter nonsense. That's some fuzzy math. You're always making scripture say what you want it to say. Your dishonest treatment and lack of reverence for holy scripture is disgusting. After means after. What comes after 69? 70. That places His death within the 70th week whether it was 4...

Yes, of course it applies to OT saints as well. Never said otherwise.

So what? The prophecy has nothing to do with the majority of the Jews believing in Christ. It has to do with salvation and the forgiveness of sins being made possible for them. The Jews themselves cannot fulfill any of the six things listed in Daniel 9:24. That is absolutely ridiculous. Only...

I completely disagree. There is no indication of this whatsoever in the text. When do you see everlasting righteousness being brought in exactly?

How do you have Christ's death fulfilling anything in Daniel 9:24 if you don't even place it within any of the 70 weeks? That makes no sense.