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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    But shun profane and vain babblings

    LOL. Did I say that isn't the words of God? No, I did not. But, I interpret them differently than you do. My doctrine lines up perfectly with those verses. Unlike you, I have used other scripture to support my understanding of that passage. You ignore or twist those scriptures which contradict...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    But shun profane and vain babblings

    True. Acts 26:23 That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead, and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles. Why don't you address this verse? Afraid to acknowledge what it says? Regardless of how one understands what the first...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    But shun profane and vain babblings

    He said to prove what you allege, not just quote scripture with no commentary and no exegesis.
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    When was the A.O.D fulfilled?

    There is more than one definition for the word "soul". Paul taught that a person, who can also be called a soul, is made up of body, soul and spirit. 1 Thessalonians 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    Did I say it's not a serious prophecy? No. My goodness. Do you believe that a person is required to have the correct interpretation of Daniel 9:24-27 in order to be saved? Actually, the false teaching about the 70 weeks is not used to support premil, but rather is used to try to support...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    When was the A.O.D fulfilled?

    No, He was not. Why would He bother saying that when it's obviously impossible for that to happen? No, He was saying that only He has ascended there bodily since only He has an immortal body so far. Next in order, according to Paul, are those who belong to Christ at His second coming. You do not...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    When was the A.O.D fulfilled?

    There is more than one definition for the word "soul", as I've shown you. Understand? A person or human being can be called a soul. Those are synonyms. But, scripture teaches that a person has a body, soul and spirit (1 Thess 5:23). Why don't you tell me again your analogy you used to explain 1...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    But shun profane and vain babblings

    That is your opinion, but I'm showing clear and straightforward scripture which says Jesus's resurrection was the first resurrection and there's other scripture which says we all spiritually have part in His resurrection. Is this verse in your Bible? Acts 26:23 That Christ should suffer, and...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    But shun profane and vain babblings

    Get out of here with this nonsense! You are making false accusations! Interpreting Revelation 20 is not a case of adding to the book of Revelation. You interpret it one way and we interpret it another. Stop this foolishness! Tell me, at what point is it true that the second death has no power...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    But shun profane and vain babblings

    This is absolute slander on his part. It's also an admission that he knows he can't refute the explicit scriptures we use to support our doctrine, so he has resorted to misrepresenting what we believe. It's an absolute desperation move on his part.
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    But shun profane and vain babblings

    This is foolishness. No one is saying that the dead in Christ have been bodily resurrected already, which is what 2 Timothy 2:18 is about. Some of us are simply agreeing with scripture by saying that the first resurrection was Christ's bodily resurrection and all believers spiritually have part...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    What are the two witnesses doing with the prostitute?

    Did you read anything I said? I said "I understand that some traits of mystery Babylon are similar to ancient Jerusalem", but not all of them fit Jerusalem and I showed which ones do not. When was Jerusalem ever "the hold of EVERY foul spirit, and a cage of EVERY hateful and unclean bird"...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    Look. I fully understand this and never said otherwise. Did I? No, I did not. What I'm saying is that we can't make that kind of determination about people just because they misinterpret some Bible prophecy. Instead, we make that kind of determination by their actions. Are they claiming to have...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    The battle of Gog and Magog does not happen until after the thousand year reign of Christ

    You're making a fool of yourself in this thread. Why don't you actually pay attention to what we're saying instead of just making assumptions? We are saying that the first resurrection itself was Christ's bodily resurrection. That already took place, right? I think you can at least understand...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    The battle of Gog and Magog does not happen until after the thousand year reign of Christ

    He is making no effort to understand what we believe, so he ends up repeatedly making false accusations towards us as if we're saying the bodily resurrection of the dead in Christ has already occurred, which, of course, we are not. I think the latter. He's clearly making no effort to understand...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    The battle of Gog and Magog does not happen until after the thousand year reign of Christ

    What are you saying exactly? You are saying you believe the dead in Christ were bodily raised with Christ at His resurrection or spiritually raised with Christ as passages like this talk about: Ephesians 2:4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, 5 Even when we...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    The battle of Gog and Magog does not happen until after the thousand year reign of Christ

    Yes. The lack of honesty on their part is sad to see. We show explicit scripture that supports our view and they don't want to address it. So, they try to change the subject, as you said. I can't imagine having the perspective of believing what you want to believe, as they do, instead of just...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    The battle of Gog and Magog does not happen until after the thousand year reign of Christ

    Yep. Nothing but childish and sarcastic responses with no substance while they misrepresent our view. That's all they have to offer since they can't refute our view at all. We show explicit scripture that says Jesus has been reigning since His resurrection and they ignore it. We show...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    The battle of Gog and Magog does not happen until after the thousand year reign of Christ

    If you want to debate Amils, maybe you should put at least some effort into understanding what we believe. Eh? Congratulations on winning the debate with your straw man.
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    The battle of Gog and Magog does not happen until after the thousand year reign of Christ

    Pathetic response. Using scripture to interpret scripture the way I do is vain babblings to you. What a joke. Yes, the first resurrection itself is past because that is Christ's resurrection as scripture explicitly teaches! (Acts 26:23, 1 Cor 15:20, Col 1:18, Rev 1:5). But, having part in His...