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There is no little girl at my home. If I were to discharge a firearm in the air, it would be aimed nowhere near anyone.

No. The disciples had a chance to flee when the arresting party fell to the ground. Scripture doesn’t say why they fell, only that they did. I didn’t avoid it. He’s a pacifist who would not kill someone attacking his wife. Neither would I. Would he go further than I would? I think he would...

Putting myself between my wife or child if they were being attacked, giving them a chance to flee, is what I see Jesus doing in the Garden to defend his disciples. I’d still like for you to comment on firearm registration and restrictions in Australia.

It doesn’t persuade you @Riven, but how did Jesus defend himself when he was threatened with physical violence? How did the apostles defend themselves when they were threatened with physical violence? Why wouldn’t you defend yourself the way they did?

Yes. Pacifism isn’t passivity - which is why the “you’re just going to stand there and do nothing” argument has no teeth - and what individual pacifists may choose to do is a wide range.

I didn’t say that I would use any physical force. I haven’t used any non-lethal physical force. What I have said that is that I might. In the thread I posted a link to for you, the Christian speaker in the video advocated “grappling”; grappling! I don’t see examples of Jesus and the apostles...

Did Jesus and the apostles use those items for that purpose? We’ve already discussed why my appeal to the teaching and practice of Jesus and the apostles doesn’t persuade you.

The teaching and example of Jesus and the apostles. What physical force did they use?

I don’t know. AI Overview - “Approximately 3.3% of Australians (roughly 1 in 30 people) hold a valid firearms license. While total civilian gun numbers have grown past 4 million due to population increases, individual license holders own an average of more than four firearms each, meaning a...

Yes. That’s part of what tax money is for in the United States. I protected my child, when she was still living under my roof, using non-lethal means.

The point is that a shotgun blast aimed in the sky protected him from two intruders. (In the movie, the intruders were his son and his basketball coach, neither of whom he recognized.) I worked with police officers from time to time for over 30 years. I’ve had the discussion with many of them.

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One of the movie’s main characters, Shooter, fires a shotgun from a place of concealment as a warning and shouts, “Identify!” He wasn’t aiming at anyone. Not to harm a human being.

I’ve addressed this recently in another thread.

I said that no one knows what happened to Cornelius and the others. There are no extant records outside of scripture to refer to for them. In other threads I’ve discussed extensively what happened in general to persons in that position, drawing also from the writings of the Ante Nicene Church...

You’re in luck then. Hunting and self-defense against animals, but I could see a scenario for using them in self-defense against humans. Have you ever watched the movie [Hoosiers? Yes. I wouldn’t shoot at anyone in self-defense.

Yes, but you’ve said that your opinions aren’t based on Christian arguments. Your non-Christian / anti-Christian arguments aren’t going to persuade me. No.

If you review this thread, or search my posts in others, you will find that I have. @RLT63 and I discussed it in this thread just a couple of days ago. I’ve just spent several weeks addressing the issue of Christian soldiers serving in the Roman army.

Around 1 in 3. What is the figure in Australia @markalan?

You’ve misstated what I’ve said. You also think Paul is wrong. Since my position is his, and you think it is silly, you think Paul is silly. Which I think is anti-Christian. Guns. But I also have butter knives.