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No. Yes. Paul called Nero and his government (the pagan Roman Empire) servants (or ministers) of God. Right?

There’s nothing wrong with that. That’s what the police are for. Then you have to use other means which do not conflict with the teaching and example of Jesus and the apostles. What did they teach and what did do? It isn’t a sin to protect yourself and your family. It is a sin to disobey...

”We [all followers of Jesus, not only the clergy] do not use the weapons of the world.” - Paul, in 2 Corinthians 10:4 @Riven the clergy has always had access to weapons. We know what weapons they have access to. They are the same weapons which all followers of Jesus have access to -> Spiritual...

“Do your best and then sleep in peace. God is awake.” - Adrian Rogers

You’ve said publicly on this platform that one of your favorite Christian authors is the well-known pacifist, C.H. Spurgeon; known as - which you yourself have confirmed - ”The Prince of Preachers”. (In my opinion, the best preacher which Protestantism has ever produced. He is a major figure in...

The apostles didn’t wound or kill their enemies.* The apostles didn’t wound or kill their friends. The apostles didn’t wound or kill one another. The apostles didn’t wound or kill the disciples (brothers and sisters) of Jesus. The apostles didn’t wound or kill anyone, for any reason. The...

The Just War theory was unknown to the early Christians @Riven. It doesn’t come to us from Jesus and the apostles. (It comes to us from men like Ambrose and Augustine; late 4th century / early 5th century.) There was no “class system” that made clergy holy men who couldn’t kill for the state and...

Did Jesus and the apostles use the weapons of the world to save people who were being attacked? No, they didn’t. Why didn’t they?

He should. Whether he would or not is another matter. Have you asked clergymen if they would shoot to wound a mass shooter? Military chaplains are strictly prohibited from carrying and using weapons. They have soldiers assigned to them who, to paraphrase @Rivens comment - keep them from...

I’m human. I would be grateful to God for saving my family.

Who among them does God not want to be saved? Who among them doesn’t need to hear the gospel, believe, and repent? Whether they accept or reject the heralding of the gospel isn’t the responsibility of the Christian. The responsibility of the Christian is to herald the message. That’s how...

It goes back to the development of Just War theory @Riven. Why does Just War theory exclude clergy from killing? AI Overview - “Just War theory excludes clergy from killing because priests and clerics are strictly bound to a spiritual role. By functioning as ministers of the sacraments and...

I don’t go anywhere without it. Violent mobs - Muslim or non-Muslim - don’t listen for long. The adventures of Paul come to mind as an example of that. Muslims are still part of the Christian’s mission field. Do you disagree with that?

I appreciate your candidness but I’m deeply concerned that you think the word / teaching of Jesus is divorced from reality. Have you discussed it with another pastor? The apostles didn’t think his word / teaching is divorced from reality. They were willing to die for the reality, and did...

Should Christians be willing to do bad things? AI Overview - “No, Christians should not be willing to do bad things. Christian teachings in the Bible strictly command believers to reject evil, pursue righteousness, and avoid doing wrong even if it leads to suffering. Biblical Commands Against...

Another member of the forum put it this way -> such a person is “man in form, not substance.” Is that how you view me? (That member does.) Is that how you view Desmond Doss? (That member does.) Is that how you view the apostles? (That member refused to say.)

Desmond Doss. That Medal of Honor he’s wearing says otherwise. Desmond Doss is a man. He wasn’t willing to do bad things, and didn’t. P.S. Doss was a pacifist, and he was one of the bravest men who ever lived. The false teacher labeled him a coward. Do you?

@Riven it isn’t clear to me from your reply whether or not you understand why military chaplains aren’t “armed, ready to kill.” Would you put your questions to them that you put to me?

Yes. Jesus’ Golden Rule isn’t divorced from reality. Do you wonder what Jesus would have said to them? If you don’t, you should. He was wrong for disobeying the teaching and example of Jesus and the apostles. You know what he did was wrong. Murder is condemned in scripture. Jesus and...