Search results

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

  1. Spiritual Israelite

    When was the A.O.D fulfilled?

    We will inherit the earth after it has been renewed by Christ for eternity (2 Peter 3:10-13). Peter said we are looking for "new heavens and a new earth where righteousness dwell", not for a temporal earthly kingdom. What a letdown it would be to inherit the earth only to have it later burned...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    When was the A.O.D fulfilled?

    Yes, He most definitely is (Matt 28:16-18, Eph 1:19-23, Col 1:12-13, Rev 1:5-6, etc.). And His kingdom does not come with observation (Luke 17:20) and is not, and never will be, of this world (John 18:36).
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Many does not mean "many, but not all". You are trying to force a definition on the Hebrew word raḇ (Strong's H727 - translated as "many" in Daniel 12:2) that doesn't exist. Here are a few examples where the word is used to describe all of something rather than many, but not all of something...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    They will be crying to the mountains

    That's not an acceptable response. Please address my points. We're talking about the second coming of Christ here. Do you see the similarities between Revelation 6:12-17 and Matthew 24:29-31? What is your understanding of Matthew 24:29? Does you see a time period of economic downturn happening...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    The battle of Gog and Magog does not happen until after the thousand year reign of Christ

    LOL. Yet, you can't do it. Not even close. So, it is definitely hard for you. So, I'm not sure who you're talking about when you say it's not hard to disprove, but you can't possibly be talking about yourself and your weak arguments. It's actually glaringly obvious that He is reigning now if...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    They will be crying to the mountains

    Revelation 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    When was Satan cast out of heaven, down to the earth?

    You are out of your mind. Do we Amils not speak the truth when we say that Jesus Christ, our great God and Savior, has all power and authority in heaven and on earth right now, as He said Himself (Matthew 28:16-18)? You are accusing us of not being born of the Spirit just because you disagree...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    When was Satan cast out of heaven, down to the earth?

    He clearly has very little understanding of Amil, but he is acting as if those who are Amils are part of some non-Christian cult. He quoted 1 John 4:6 and associated it with me and he thinks I am "not of God" and have "the spirit of error". Can you believe this nonsense? The biggest emphasis of...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    When was Satan cast out of heaven, down to the earth?

    I thought he was different than the pretribs because he is post-trib and does have a few good insights, but it turns out he is just like them with his pridefulness, his terrible attitude and how he judges us merely for having the gall to disagree with some of his end times beliefs. He won't...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    When was Satan cast out of heaven, down to the earth?

    You are completely out of line and you need to apologize. The spirit of error is what John called "that spirit of antichrist" a few verses earlier and by associating 1 John 4:6 with me, you are trying to tell me I am "not of God". Are you kidding me? You have now decided that the end times...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    When was Satan cast out of heaven, down to the earth?

    Goodness sakes, this shows that you have little understanding of what we Amils believe. What gave you the idea that those of us who believe Satan's little season has already started, also believe that any of us already have glorified bodies? When did we ever say those 2 things go hand in hand...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    When was Satan cast out of heaven, down to the earth?

    Tell me one person or thing that Jesus does not reign over right now. Ephesians 1:19 And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power, 20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    When was Satan cast out of heaven, down to the earth?

    Righteousness will not reign on earth until it is renewed by fire when Jesus returns. It will be the new earth at that point. 2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    When was Satan cast out of heaven, down to the earth?

    Isaiah 65:17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.18 But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy. 19 And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    When was Satan cast out of heaven, down to the earth?

    This is speculation at best. This is the problem with premillennialism. It's not based on clear, straightforward scripture like Amillennialism is. There is clear, straightforward scripture which says that Jesus has been reigning a long time already since His resurrection (Matt 28:16-18, Eph...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    When was Satan cast out of heaven, down to the earth?

    2 Peter 3:8 has absolutely nothing to do with Revelation 20. You are completely missing the context of 2 Peter 3:8. You need to look at the surrounding verses to see the context. 2 Peter 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, 4...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    When was Satan cast out of heaven, down to the earth?

    Premil is simply the belief that the thousand years immediately follows Christ's return. Amil is the belief that Jesus reigns now, as scripture explicitly teaches (Matt 28:16-18, Eph 1:19-22, Col 1:12-13, Rev 1:5-6, etc.) and that Satan's binding means his influence has been restrained rather...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    When was Satan cast out of heaven, down to the earth?

    This is not a valid argument. The beast is mentioned over 30 times in the book of Revelation. Does that mean it's a literal beast with seven literal heads and ten literal horns? Of course not.
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    When was Satan cast out of heaven, down to the earth?

    Why are you taking that so literally? Does he deceive you? Do you worship him and the beast? Obviously, those verses are only talking about those "whose names are not written in the book of life" and not literally everyone. There is "a great multitude" of saved people (Rev 7:9), so why do you...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    When was Satan cast out of heaven, down to the earth?

    What exactly are you saying when you say we're "in the dark"? That's normally something that would be said about unbelievers who are in spiritual darkness. Is that what you think of us? Our doctrine emphasizes the current power and majesty of our Great God and Savior Jesus Christ and His...