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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Agree completely. And, how convenient of him to relate the supposed 7 days before the flood that Noah entered the ark to a pretrib rapture, but not relating the fire coming down on Sodom the same day that Lot went out of Sodom to the rapture. That's the kind of selective cherry picking of...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    I do accept that. Are you trying to lie about me again? Do you ever repent of your lies? What does that have to do with Noah entering the ark? Try not talking nonsense for once and see where it leads. Sure I do. But, it doesn't take much attention to see that your doctrine is absolute...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    When was the A.O.D fulfilled?

    Yes, it's always "but, what saith the OT scriptures" for premillennialists. Let's not rely on NT scripture to shine light on it or anything. Let's just act as if the NT doesn't exist. You lost me here. I don't know what you're trying to say. Sometimes you are impossible to follow and this is...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    They will be crying to the mountains

    How nice. That verse refers to unbelieving Christ rejecters like the Pharisees of Christ's day. Comparing me to them. Pathetic. Go ahead and run away with your tail between your legs just because you are too cowardly to address the scriptures that don't support your view. Anyone who thinks there...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Where does that say they were resurrected unto bodily immortality? That is the context of what he is talking about. Obviously, there were some like those referenced in that passage and Lazarus and a few others who were resurrected, but not unto bodily immortality. That would contradict 1...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    When was the A.O.D fulfilled?

    You won't address scriptures that I bring up. You acted like you addressed 2 Peter 3:10-12, but it was an incredibly weak argument. That passage very clearly shows the entire earth being burned up when Jesus returns. But, you think some mortals will survive that? Tell me how exactly and why...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    So, you think you know better than Jesus then? He said the flood came the day Noah entered the ark, so He obviously didn't interpret Genesis 7 the way you do. I can't imagine how huge your ego must be to think that you know better then Jesus. Beyond that, how does 7 days equate to a 7 year...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    LOL! Maybe? You can never tell what they might believe. And did people just stop eating and drinking 7 days before the flood came. Jesus said people were doing their normal actitivities like eating and drinking and marrying until the flood came. If they stopped eating and drinking 7 days before...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    The battle of Gog and Magog does not happen until after the thousand year reign of Christ

    No one knows the day or hour. I'm not into speculating like you are. It's pointless. Just be ready at all times and watch that you are not deceived. Christ warned that the level of deception in the time just before His return would be such that it could deceive even the very elect, if that were...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    They will be crying to the mountains

    Oh, you're still talking to me? Interesting. I clearly know much more than you do, as evidenced by your lack of understanding that when it talks about few surviving Christ's wrath at His second coming it's talking about believers and not unbelievers. It is based on the fact that Revelation...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    It doesn't support it in any way, shape or form. I can't figure out what makes less sense. 1. Thinking that Noah entered the ark 7 days before the flood came despite Jesus saying the flood came the day Noah entered the ark, which shows a lack of trust that Jesus knew what He was talking about...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    The battle of Gog and Magog does not happen until after the thousand year reign of Christ

    This shows that your understanding of the word "generation" is flawed. You have the same understanding of the word as preterists do (a chronological generation) except at least they are honest and don't try to say that a generation is longer than 40 years. Think about that. You're agreeing with...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    The battle of Gog and Magog does not happen until after the thousand year reign of Christ

    As is often the case, you are making up your own definitions for words. A generation is not equal to the average lifespan of people, it's the time period during which someone grows up until they have their own kids that brings about a new generation.
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    When was the A.O.D fulfilled?

    You are unwilling to address my interpretations of those passages and you won't address the other passages that I bring up. So, you'd rather just run away with your tail between your legs than deal with passages like 1 Thess 5:2-3 which teach that no unbelievers will escape God's wrath when...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    They will be crying to the mountains

    Let me answer it for you then. It will be less than one day.
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    The lack of honesty on this forum is very disappointing and disturbing to witness. Comparing the day Noah entered the ark to a pre-trib rapture occurring 7 years before Christ returns is pure nonsense no matter how you look at it, as you showed. Unbelievable.
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    So, if the rapture occurs at the same time as Christ's wrath occurs at His second coming, who does that leave to populate an earthly millennial kingdom, keeping in mind that we will all have immortal bodies? How many unbelievers survived the flood? None, right? Jesus said it will be just like...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    According to Paul, the resurrection that occurs at Christ's return would be a second resurrection, not the first. Christ's resurrection itself was the first unto bodily immortality. 1 Corinthians 15:20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. 21 For...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Yep. Some don't seem to care much about what Jesus taught. We should believe Him when He said all of the dead will be raised at generally the same time instead of contradicting Him and believing that some will be raised one time, some another time and so on.
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    When was the A.O.D fulfilled?

    This is what often happens. When someone has their view challenged and are not prepared to defend their premil doctrine, they run away with their tail between their legs instead of dealing with scripture honestly. This is nothing new.