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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Why use a translation that contradicts your doctrine? I would never do that. It makes no sense. It seems like you would prefer the New World Translation favored by Jehovah's Witnesses.
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    This is pure nonsense. Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. Who...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    You have criticized the translations that people on this thread are using. What is your preferred English Bible translation?
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Okay, you acknowledge that the day of the Lord refers to the day when Christ returns. What did Paul say would happen on that day? He said in 1 Thess 5:2-3 that there would be "sudden destruction" from which "they shall not escape", right? Will any mortals survive that? What did Peter say will...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    You're not saying anything here that us Christians disagree with. God the Father raised Jesus from the dead. But, we believe in what they call "the trinity" which is God in three persons: the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. And we believe that Jesus is both God and man at the same time. So, to say...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    There has definitely been a flurry of posts in this thread. With that said, I hope you will respond to my post #1687 because I think it's worth examining Luke 21 more carefully than what it seems you have so far.
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I'm sorry. I didn't realize simple questions were too difficult for you to answer.
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Matthew 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Are you part of the Jehovah's Witnesses religion? What Bible translation do you use?
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Well, you're also someone who doesn't believe like a typical pretrib who would say there is one rapture and it will occur right before the tribulation, just as portrayed in the Left Behind fictional novels. There's no question that many people have been influenced by those novels. Think about...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Why not? There is nothing that says this. That is what you want to believe. You are deceived. Scripture says the world was made BY Him and FOR Him and you deny that. You deny clear scripture repeatedly. Why should anyone listen to you? Would I ask if I knew? Of course not. Why do you play games...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Look at this guy applauding the thoughtfulness of the heretic who denies the deity of Christ while in the meantime he says evil and nasty things to those like me who do believe in the deity of Christ. You have your priorities all out of order. It's hilarious that you imagine yourself to be...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    This describes them: 1 Corinthians 3:1 And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ. 2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able. 3 For ye are yet carnal...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    It is typical of human beings who have have long held beliefs to react angrily when they find out their long held beliefs are not true. But, Christians should not be like that. When I came to realize that Amil was true, I was baffled a bit at first and wondered how I didn't see it before. But, I...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    That's what you will say in response to any truth that is presented to you. That is what those who are brainwashed by cults do. You are blind and deceived. Colossians 1:14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: 15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Absolutely agree. When have we ever called them "Satan" or "evil spirits" or anything like that? Never. Do those like us who passionately argue in support of the deity of Christ follow Satan or evil spirits? Of course not. So, they are way out of line with those kinds of insults.
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    So, let's ask him then. @CadyandZoe Are you a Jehovah's Witness?
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Show us when we ever called pretribbers "Satan", "evil spirits" or anything like that. Or when we ever suggested you were oppressed or possessed by evil spirits? To try to equate your evil insults with ours is a joke. Everyone here can see how utterly evil and hateful your insults are. Our...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Agree. Jesus said we should pray to be accounted worthy to escape what God's enemies will not escape, which Paul references here: 1 Thessalonians 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I assume you mean you have several browser windows open. I do, too, but I don't have that problem. I get alerts on all posts that are made in response to me.