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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I asked how you interpret Romans 11:5-14. Can you comment on that first before we move on from there, please? Then I will comment on what you said here.
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    So, just ignore how Ezekiel 39:29 closely resembles Acts 2:16-18 then. The whole chapter is somehow not related to the time when God already started pouring out His Spirit on the house of Israel. So much for letting scripture interpret scripture. Also, Ezekiel is a highly symbolic book. Why you...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Amil, Premil, poster list

    I'm not adding to it, I'm giving my interpretation of scripture just like you did when you said it was "their beloved city" in relation to the Jews even though it does not say that. Should I then accuse you of adding to scripture like you did to me? It's a pretty serious accusation to make to...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    No, that is not what Paul said. Please examine the passage more carefully. Romans 11:25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, 26 and...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    Daniel 7:11, sure. Daniel 7:12, no. What are your thoughts on what I said about verse 12 being a parenthetical verse about the others beasts being previous historical kingdoms (world empires)? Daniel 7:7 “After that, in my vision at night I looked, and there before me was a fourth...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    This will be a sign for you:

    How is this a response to my question? Did you miss it? Tell me, Jack, which Israel are Gentile believers fellow citizens of now? Ephesians 2:11 Therefore, remember that formerly you who are Gentiles by birth and called “uncircumcised” by those who call themselves “the circumcision” (which is...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    This will be a sign for you:

    Show me the word "rapture" in the Bible. It ain't there! But, you and I both believe it will happen, right? What a lame argument, which is all that you have to bring to the table. Tell me, Jack, which Israel are Gentile believers fellow citizens of now? Ephesians 2:11 Therefore, remember that...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I believe it starts at that time, but I'm not sure if it's for the same reasons you believe it is. I believe that Abaddon/Apollyon is another name for Satan. It describes him as an angel and the king of the figurative locusts in the bottomless pit. I believe the locusts figuratively represent...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    It's not talking about the entire house of Israel believing which is not a reasonable thing to believe at all. There were 3,000 Israelite Christian converts on the day of Pentecost alone: Acts 2:41 Those who accepted his message were baptized, and about three thousand were added to their number...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Please read the passage carefully. Peter said regarding Joel 2:28-32 in reference to what was happening on the day of Pentecost, "this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel" after which he proceeded to quote Joel 2:28-32. So, he was including the day of Pentecost among the last days. Now, this...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    Are you saying you don't believe the covenant referenced in Isaiah 59:20-21 has been established yet? If so, I completely disagree with that. I believe it is referring to the new covenant. What other covenant besides the new covenant relates to people's sins being taken away? Only the new...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    I think you're missing that Daniel 7:12 is a parenthetical verse and not intended to talk about a time period following what is described in Daniel 7:11. It's even showing in parentheses in other translations like the NIV. Daniel 7:12 (NIV): (The other beasts had been stripped of their...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    This will be a sign for you:

    This says it all about you. You say you don't need to interpret the Bible, which implies that you're saying you don't need any spiritual discernment from the Holy Spirit to understand the Bible, despite Paul having said this: 1 Corinthians 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    This will be a sign for you:

    I never saw you say it here. You certainly didn't make that clear in anything you've said in this thread that I've seen. If you've said it many times elsewhere, I wouldn't have seen that because I've never seen any of your posts in any other threads.
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    This will be a sign for you:

    This is doctrinal bias at its worst. The context of the entire passage is about how one's ethnicity or nationality means nothing. But, Paul would then proceed single out the nation of Israel by saying peace and mercy to them by virtue of their nationality? Total nonsense! Let's put your...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    This will be a sign for you:

    Your false interpretations of the Bible do, obviously. The Bible doesn't upset anyone here or else we wouldn't be here.
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    This will be a sign for you:

    There's no forum moderation here. Just tell me what you believe already. Do you believe Jesus is God? I will assume not if you won't answer the question.
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Blind Guides and Deluded Followers

    And, yet, you are completely incapable of refuting my claims. I show scripture that explicitly stays Jesus is reigning now and you counter that with your babbling and nothing more. I think everyone here can see which one of us is making themselves look silly. And it's not the one proving his...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Were you not trying to say that "the latter days" only refers to the future? I show you a passage that says the last days began a long time already (Acts 2:16-18) and you just ignore that as if scripture says nothing about the past or nothing about ongoing things of the past almost 2,000 years...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    Amil, Premil, poster list

    Are you forgetting that you are talking about Old Testament times here? Who are the saints in New Testament times that began with the death and resurrection of Christ? Christians, of course. Both Jew and Gentile believers. Romans 1:7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints...