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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    How can mortal people inherit the kingdom in light of what Paul said here: 1 Corinthians 15:50 I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Notice how he is resorting to asking questions that have nothing to do with the topic at hand. He's trying to distract from the fact that he is unable to refute anything we're saying.
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You clearly don't get it. You completely missed the point. You obviously don't know what the word "signified" means. signified (noun): the meaning or idea expressed by a sign, as distinct from the physical form in which it is expressed. For a message to be signified means that physical...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    LOL. Such nonsense. You are trying to apply Rev 22:19 to someone who is interpreting something as a metaphor within a book that contains many metaphors? Get serious. Also, that verse is talking about someone PURPOSELY taking away or adding to the prophecy in the book and no one is doing that.
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    No, not in the sense that James was talking about. You didn't bother to check and see who he was addressing in his letter. James 1:1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, To the twelve tribes scattered among the nations: Greetings. James was talking about Jewish believers in...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    LOL. The pure nonsense continues from you. This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. Jesus is the Christ. You're acting like Jesus and Christ are not the same or something. Ridiculous. Stop resorting to this foolishness and start accepting what scripture actually teaches. More nonsense...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You are making a fool of yourself here. No matter how many times a figurative term is used, it's still figurative. The beast is referenced over 30 times in the book of Revelation. Does that make it a literal beast? Of course not. So, the "thousand years' being referenced 6 times does not mean...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    No. You are making that up. Christ Himself is the firstfruits of the dead in Christ. The firstfruits James referred to were the believing Jews of the first century. You are clueless.
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    This world and the wicked are going up in a puff of smoke when Jesus come - thus negating Premil

    Don't respond at all if you're not going to address my points. Your one liner responses are pointless.
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    This world and the wicked are going up in a puff of smoke when Jesus come - thus negating Premil

    His followers are in Christ. More nonsense from you that no one can take seriously. What are you even talking about here? He gives people permission to make both good and bad choices rather than forcing them to do what He wants. That's what permission is. It seems like you don't even know what...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    Meet the ruler of the Nations, the Shepherd.

    And you avoid the fact that scripture associates the rod of iron "rule" with the destruction of Christ's enemies. Psalm 2:7 I will proclaim the Lord’s decree: He said to me, “You are my son; today I have become your father. 8 Ask me, and I will make the nations your inheritance, the ends of the...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    Jesus could and did forgive sins before the cross. What changed after the cross?

    Because He is God and He knew that He was going to shed His blood for the forgiveness of sins. Because of His foreknowledge of what He was going to do, He had the authority to declare people's sins forgiven since He knew His blood would retroactively cover their sins. Being God and having...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You are again relating two unrelated passages. Pray for wisdom (James 1:5-7) so that you stop taking scripture out of context. The firstfruits James alluded to were first century JEWS that believed in Christ. They are firstfruits in the sense of being the first to follow Christ. The passage you...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I believe eating from the tree of life symbolizes enjoying the eternal life that we will have with God in the new heavens and on the new earth forever. But, if you want to think it's talking about literally eating from a literal tree, go for it. As I said more than once already, I do believe we...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I'm not a preterist, but I know that no preterist teaches that. You are arguing with a straw man here. Stop wasting your time doing that.
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Of course He is one person, but it's plural because His resurrection unto bodily immortality made it so that all the dead who belong to Him can one day be resurrected unto bodily immortality as well. It very specifically says that Christ is the firstfruits of those who have fallen sleep...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    There's no symbolism at all in the book of Revelation, right? So, it's not possible that He was speaking in a symbolic sense there? Do you believe He literally stood among seven literal golden lampstands (candlesticks) as well? Revelation 1:12 I turned around to see the voice that was speaking...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You are trying to relate verses that are not related. James 1:18 is talking about people who are ALIVE and considered to be "firstfruits of his creatures". Contrast that with this verse: 1 Corinthians 15:20 But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Actual tree of life in heaven? I don't believe there is a literal tree of life in heaven. But, that's another story and we don't need to waste time talking about that. I believe the main thing you're getting at here is whether or not we will be able to do physical things like eat when we have...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You are adding to the text. You should never do that with scripture. It reveals your doctrinal bias. It is saying that Christ Himself is the firstfruits. Read 1 Cor 15:20 where it says specifically that Christ Himself is the firstfruits.