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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    And one of us supported "our bit" with scripture while the other one didn't. I'm sure everyone here can see that. Where does scripture do this? Why should I take you seriously if you can't provide any scripture to back up your beliefs?
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    2 Thessalonians 2:4 references "the temple of God". Didn't you say that this temple you believe will be built would not be one that would approve of? How could it be something Paul would call "the temple of God" then? That's impossible. But, what did Paul call the temple of the God in other...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    So what? Just because I agree with that one thing they believe makes me one of them? Give me a break. No, it does not. I'm not hiding anything. I have given my interpretation of Matthew 24:15-22 many times and I have nothing to hide. It's the preterists and the futurists like you who are wrong...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

    Are you purposely trying to be misleading with this post? Amils deny an earthly rule as Premils understand it. Why didn't you bother clarifying that? Are you being intentionally dishonest here? It seems that you are. Of course we do. Who said otherwise? No one. You're making things up in this...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    No, you see that. I see God asking "where is the house that ye build unto me"? How does that equate to some temple being built in the future? You're making a lot of assumptions here. Don't tell me I believe in some "preterist reformed eschatology" when I only agree with a small part of what they...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

    What is your excuse for your ignorance? Why do you not accept what Jesus Himself said? Matthew 28:18 Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. And what Paul said about Him? Ephesians 1:19 and his incomparably great power for us who believe...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    No, it does not. Where is there any indication here about a rebuilt temple in the future? There isn't. What was said here would have been true of anyone since the time that Christ rendered the temple standing in His day to be desolate. You are making a lot of assumptions about this passage...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

    There is no description of Jesus ruling in the midst of His enemies in Revelation 19-20. Instead, there is a depiction of Him destroying all of His enemies at His second coming. Twice. In Revelation 19:17-18 is shows Him destroying "all people, free and slave, small and great" and Revelation...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

    No, they are not the same. The new heavens and new earth will be marked by there being "no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away” (Rev 21:4) when they are ushered in. But there will be death after the thousand years, as shown in Revelation 20:7-9...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    In the rare times when the Premils who believe in that actually answer that question they say that the sacrifices will be performed in remembrance of Christ's sacrifice and things like that. But, where is that taught in scripture? Nowhere, of course. To think that animal sacrifices will ever...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    That is incredibly foolish on his part. No, to NOT interpret scripture with scripture leads to all sorts of erroneous doctrines. People believe in nonsense like the pre-trib rapture because of not being able to see the direct relationship between scriptures like 1 Thess 4:14-17 and Matthew...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Where are you getting this from? Do you believe the following refers to "the Millennial period"? Ezekiel 45:15 Also one sheep is to be taken from every flock of two hundred from the well-watered pastures of Israel. These will be used for the grain offerings, burnt offerings and fellowship...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Does the next age being filled with sin and sinners match up with Jesus's description of the next age (age to come)? Luke 20:34 Jesus replied, “The people of this age marry and are given in marriage. 35 But those who are considered worthy of taking part in the age to come and in the...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    What you said in post #4812 is not even remotely taught in 1 Corinthians 15:50! Are you kidding me? Where does that verse remotely say anything to support what you said, which was "But only those who have been transformed from perishable to imperishable can inherit the eternal aspect of the...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Where is this taught in scripture, though? Looks like you're just trying to make something up to keep your doctrine afloat instead of getting your view from scripture.
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Did you just skip over verses 15-17? Ezekiel 45:15 Also one sheep is to be taken from every flock of two hundred from the well-watered pastures of Israel. These will be used for the grain offerings, burnt offerings and fellowship offerings to make atonement for the people, declares the...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    This is complete nonsense and is a huge insult to the "once for all" sacrifice that Jesus made long ago. This shows a lack of understanding of what Jesus accomplished. Hebrews 10:8 First he said, “Sacrifices and offerings, burnt offerings and sin offerings you did not desire, nor were you...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I have told you several times before that I believe 1 Cor 15:50-56 occurs AFTER the thousand years, so why are you saying this to me as if I believed otherwise?
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Where is this concept of differentiating between living in and inheriting the kingdom of God taught in scripture? I, of course, don't really need to look into this for myself as I have already given it plenty of thought and study over the years. To me, Paul was making it clear that the only ones...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Is the "kingdom of God" that Paul referenced in 1 Cor 15:50 a different kingdom than the one you call the Millennial kingdom? If so, where does scripture teach that two different kingdoms will be inherited by different people when Christ returns?