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The teachings of Jesus and the apostles are practical today. I don’t disregard any scripture. I’ve already pointed out that the earliest followers of Jesus did not follow your teaching and they did do justice.

We are not agreed. The crusaders reflected the Catholic Church, not Jesus.

You’re supporting and endorsing what the Catholic Church did to protect it’s interests. I provided an answer. Justice doesn’t look like treating enemies as enemies treat me. Justice looks like obeying the teaching of Jesus and the apostles.

It isn’t theory; it’s sripture. You are worldly. Genuine followers of Jesus suffer injustice in the world. We don’t do to the world what the world does to us and call it doing justice. The Catholic Church destroyed / destroys lives - Muslim lives, Jewish lives, Christian lives. That’s not...

You’re defending the Catholic Church.

Yes.

The crusaders would have killed @Wrangler (and me) for not affirming their trinitarian creeds, and he calls what they did “doing justice”.

When people see followers of Jesus, they should see Jesus in them. Consider again the atrocities committed by the Muslims. Do the Muslims look like Jesus? Consider again the atrocities committed by the crusaders. Do the crusaders look like Jesus? Jesus is raping (to focus on one particular...

Raping and murdering your enemy (to name just a few of the evils) isn’t justice; it’s returning evil for evil. (Something which Jesus and the apostles instruct the followers of Jesus not to do.) The point is that it is not justice. You are arguing that it is.

In practice. “Be still and know that I am God.” I don’t ignore it. How many people have you done this to?

Neither side will get away with the evil they did.

Yes. Their creeds anathematize both of us. They in turn did to their enemies what their enemies had done to them. What does retuning evil for evil look like in your eyes? Justice.

I tried not to embarrass you. You didn’t even have to go back more than a few posts to find it. It is morally superior for a follower of Jesus not to kill the brothers and sisters of the Messiah. God is able to protect and defend his people without them killing their enemies.

To say or suggest that those who don’t support your ”You are not a follower of Jesus unless you’re armed, ready to kill“ false teaching fail to recognize, acknowledge and appreciate these benefits is just another attempt by you to belittle conscientious objectors. I don’t. Jesus had...

Not to embarrass you but, I did it again this morning.