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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    What do you mean by that? You understand that we agree on that, right? All Amils, including you and I, believe that the bodily resurrection of all of the dead in Christ will occur on the last day after the thousand years. The difference is that you see that as the first resurrection and I don't...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    What does this even mean? How do you determine that the examples he gave where the term "thousand" was used figuratively are within a figurative context? What is this "prophetic narrative" of which you speak? Where is your evidence to show that a "prophetic narrative" demands that the word...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    That is what it literally says: Revelation 19:17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun, who cried in a loud voice to all the birds flying in midair, “Come, gather together for the great supper of God, 18 so that you may eat the flesh of kings, generals, and the mighty, of horses and their...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Where does it call the beast a man? If that was the case then he is at least around 2,000 years old by now. Have you never read this: Revelation 17:8 The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and yet will come up out of the Abyss and go to its destruction. The inhabitants of the earth...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    How is it worse for amils to disagree on something than it is for premils? That is complete nonsense. Don't we all believe we get our understanding from God? And would you please capitalize God for crying out loud? You come across as someone that I find very difficult to take seriously because...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    The recaps are parallel to each other, so it isn't a matter of which one we are in now. Each recap covers the time period from Christ's first coming to His second coming. We can see things described that are related to the day of His return in several passages in Revelation, such as Revelation...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    You just aren't paying attention to what I'm telling you. I think you have very poor reading comprehension skills. I do not see the first resurrection as being a mass bodily resurrection as you do. Do you understand that?
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    I understand that not every premil believes exactly the same, but I am familiar with all of the basics and the better known variants of premil. You, on the other hand, are very lacking in your understanding of even the basics of Amil that most Amils agree on.
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    You did? Where did you indicate how you interpret John 5:28-29, Matthew 25:31-46 or 2 Peter 3:10-13? How much time do you think I have? An endless amount? Good grief. I did just answer several of your questions in another post, so I hope you're satisfied with that. I don't have time to reply to...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Do you think the number of times the thousand years is mentioned has anything to do with whether it is a literal thousand years or not? Compare the following two passages and notice the similarities: Revelation 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    We know what premils believe. We both used to be premils. You, however, clearly are ignorant about some of the things amils believe. That isn't what I was talking about. It's obvious that Amils don't see the thousand years a literal thousand years. No, I was surprised that you didn't already...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Where does scripture separate God's people into groups the way you do? Do you ever read the New Testament? Your views are not supported in it at all. You seem to be saying that God has a people of His own that are Jewish believers. And, according to you, they are their own nation. What about the...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    He was comparing John 5:24-25 to this verse: Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years. John 5:24-25 talks about how someone...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    So, we should just ignore passages like Galatians 3:16-29 then which talk about God's promises to Abraham and his seed. Nothing to see there?
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    It is as if he equates his own words with Scripture. Very strange. He rarely backs up his claims with scripture. He says that scripture says this and it says that. But where? Who knows? I would say nowhere.
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    It's not hard to see without Premil glasses on. But, once someone puts those on, it gets dark. :D
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    He's been at this a long time, yet is somehow not prepared to hear anything that questions what he believes? LOL! That makes no sense. He has been answering challenges to his beliefs for a long time, so he was prepared for that long ago and still is today. Your arguments compared to his are...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You are mistaken. The rest of the dead are contrasted with those from verse 4 who have part in the first resurrection. What you're not understanding here is that the first sentence of Revelation 20:5 is a parenthetical statement. Translations like the NIV even put it in parentheses. The second...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    But, it indicates that those who have part in the first resurrection live and reign with Christ during the thousand years. With that being the case, how can the first resurrection not occur until the last day? Yes, we agree that all people, saved and lost, will be bodily resurrected at...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    According to Paul the promises God made to Abraham and his seed were made to Christ and those who belong to Christ (Galatians 3:16,29). Why do you have the promises to Abraham and his seed applying to Israel and other nations when Paul taught they apply to Christ and His followers? Do you not...