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Randy, please stop being ridiculous. In no way, shape or form is Revelation 22:19 warning against interpreting the book of Revelation symbolically rather than literally. You have to be kidding here. In the book there are descriptions of things like a woman sitting on many waters while reading a...

Okay, now you are acknowledging that the thousand years will end and then Satan will be loosed. But, haven't you said before that the last day when all of the dead are resurrected occurs at the end of the thousand years? But, that can't be the case since there is more time that goes by after...

I am certain that he is well aware that not all premils believe the same. So, if any of his arguments don't apply to your particular view then just ignore it. No reason to be offended just because the argument doesn't address your particular view. He's making general arguments against premil...

I can't believe he expects to be taken seriously when his main source to back up his view is Wikipedia rather than scripture. Unbelievable.

What gives you the right to judge someone like this? How would you know how he spends all of his time apart from this forum? You don't. So, you have no right to judge him like this. How would you know something like this? Do you know what he does when he's not posting here? I highly doubt it...

It's hard to take you seriously when you misrepresent what someone says, which you do often. I am pretty sure WPM never said that early Chiliasts were actually Amillennialists. What I have seen him say several times is that their beliefs had more in common with Amillennialists than...

This is your whole argument. He didn't explicitly teach against it, so that somehow means He taught it? What He did teach is that His kingdom does not come with observation and is not of this world. So, He did implicitly teach against the idea of His kingdom being an earthly kingdom as you...

Can you show me where this is taught in scripture? You would think it would be mentioned in a passage like the following, but I don't see it there at all: 2 Thessalonians 1:7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, 8 In...

Let me just answer this for him. Nowhere.

Where is the scripture which supports this "Christian nation" concept that you're describing?

Where did Jesus teach that there would be "a restored physical Jerusalem and a restored physical Israel in the physical land of Israel"? Abraham and other OT saints realized that "a restored physical Jerusalem and a restored physical Israel in the physical land of Israel" is not what they should...

Very well said. I couldn't agree more. And this illustrates why this is an important topic. It's a serious problem to have the wrong perspective of Christ and His church's current position of power and authority over Satan. It can result in people severely underestimating what is possible for...

My view of Rev 11 is not strange at all. And I backed it up by referencing 1 Corinthians 15:22-24, which you did not address. If Revelation 11:15 was talking about "inception of the Messianic Kingdom" then why does it mention it becoming the kingdom of the Father and of His Messiah? To me, that...

While we agree that the thousand years is figurative, it does clearly have a beginning and an ending. I'm not sure why you would deny that. Revelation 20:3 He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years...

What do you mean? The number of times that a term is used does not determine it it's literal or not. Period. How can you not understand that? No.

So is mine. And, yet we disagree on everything. Go figure. He rules the earth now. This is Scripture. Matthew 28:16 Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. 17 When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. 18 Then Jesus came to them...

Do you plan on telling me how it's possible that the last day can occur at the end of the thousand years when Satan's little season follows the thousand years? If you want me to take your view on this seriously, then you would need to do that. I don't know about Jeff, but I don't personally...

From what I recall, I don't believe he said premillennialism itself is heretical. Wrong, but not heretical. I believe he indicated that the ones who initially taught it were heretics for reasons besides teaching premillennialism. So, it seems that the point is that it is not a good idea to...

Jesus made it clear that His kingdom "does not come with observation" (Luke 17:20) and "is not of this world" (John 18:36), so what excuse does anyone have for contradicting Him by saying His kingdom instead will come with observation and will be of this world? Take it easy there, Randy. He did...

I would interpret this hypothetical passage with a similar approach to how I interpret Revelation 20, which is in such a way that I am careful not to contradict any other scripture with my interpretation. LOL. Is this your way of telling me that you think the number of times the thousand years...