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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    Will there be or is there a need for a future Messianic age?

    Keep in mind that the original manuscripts did not have chapter breaks, so the description of who is there at that time does not end with Revelation 20:15. As believers, we will be rewarded with inheriting the new heavens and new earth and being with the Lord there forever, right? That is...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    Will there be or is there a need for a future Messianic age?

    Which means they're saying the dead being judged is not the same thing as the dead being judged. Hmmm. :confused:
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Why I'm Premil

    LOL. That is very convenient for you to conclude that the "thousand generations" is somehow self-evidently figurative, but the "thousand years" is not. Goodness gracious. This is just amazing. I'm sorry, but I believe you are saying this because of doctrinal bias and no other reason. The...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Why I'm Premil

    This illustrates the major difference in our approaches. We can't possibly ever agree when our approaches to interpreting scripture are so different. I did not begin with the idea that it is symbolic. When I first began studying this particular issue (the timing and meaning of the thousand...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    Why I'm Premil

    I believe people like WPM and myself have done that, but you're not seeing it. So be it. I don't get why you said this in response to what I said. I read what I said again and I truly have no idea how in the world it could possibly lead to this kind of response from you. What I said had nothing...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    Why I'm Premil

    How much confidence we have in our views has NOTHING to do with what Revelation 22:19 is talking about. That is the point. So, you are missing my point as well. Looks like we're just talking past each other instead of to each other and I don't know what we can do about that. I just think very...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    Why I'm Premil

    Is it really? I have seen a few people who think it's literal. So, you should not try to speak for everyone. It doesn't need to be. Is the following "self-evidently symbolic" when it references "a thousand generations"? No, it isn't. And, yet, it is symbolic. If it was literal then that would...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    Why I'm Premil

    Buddy, you don't need to call my view "a fairy tale" just because you disagree with it. Have some respect for crying out loud. Do you know how immature you come across? How can you be expected to be taken seriously when you talk like this? Some people might say the same thing about your view of...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Why I'm Premil

    Where does Peter say anything about a millennium after Christ's return? He doesn't. You are adding that to the text. The text talks about the heavens and earth being burned up as a result of the day of the Lord coming unexpectedly like a thief in the night. So, when do you believe the heavens...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    How does Revelation 19 show that? The physical destruction that accompanies His return is described figuratively there. Or do you think He will be slaying people with a literal sword coming out of His mouth?
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    And how does Satan's little season fit into your view then? You have the heavens and earth being burned up at the end of the thousand years. Are you forgetting that Satan's little season follows the thousand years?
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    The latter. We're talking about things beyond the basics here. This particular discussion isn't worth my time anymore. I can't make sense of what you're trying to say and there isn't much I can do about it because we think very differently.
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Return of the Faithful Israelites

    Your lack of response to my question is very telling. Again, what would be the purpose of this supposed future temple? Please use scripture to support your answer. Am I asking too much?
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Why I'm Premil

    Your only direct response to my post #69 was this: That's it. You didn't address anything I said in my post. You just responded with a question. Of course. Isn't it only fair for you to address what I said first before I address your question? I believe so. This does not address what I said, it...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    Why I'm Premil

    Since "the two witnesses" is a figurative term then the entire description of them is figurative as well, including a reference to their dead bodies and them standing upon their feet and such. This is similar to how the beast is sometimes described in a similar way to a man, and yet, it is not a...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    Return of the Faithful Israelites

    You just keep promoting this falsehood. What would be the purpose of this supposed future temple? Use scripture to support your answer.
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Return of the Faithful Israelites

    No idea of what you're talking about here. Are you incapable of explaining what you're talking about instead of just making statements like this with no explanation? Again, I have no idea of what you're talking about here. Where is this taught in scripture? Who said otherwise? But, that happened...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    What does that even mean for it to read "well as a literal description"? How does reading it literally line up with what Jesus taught here, for example: John 5:28 “Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice 29 and come out—those who have...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    It's funny how literal premils like yourself normally are, but when it comes to this you suddenly are not so literal anymore. Jesus very specifically indicated that John the Baptist was the Elijah to come. But, you say no, Elijah himself still has to come as well. Jesus indicated no such thing...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    So, the onus is completely on me to ask you a bunch of questions and you have no responsibility to try to communicate more clearly? Wow.