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  1. Matthias

    The curious case of John 5:4

    “All the data from every direction points to the same conclusion: that John 5:4 is probably not original to John’s gospel. Modern translators are wise to point these issues out to their readers.” https://carm.org/king-james-onlyism/was-john-53-removed-from-modern-bibles/ Interested readers...
  2. Matthias

    The curious case of John 5:4

    Have a pleasant and restful evening. God willing we’ll talk again tomorrow. Goodnight.
  3. Matthias

    The curious case of John 5:4

    I’m not sure how to say it any clearer. I’ll give it some thought and try again if I think of another way. Yes.
  4. Matthias

    The curious case of John 5:4

    “Only God knows who are his children.“ Those are your words. They express what you believe. If it is true that only God knows who are his children then wouldn’t it also be true that you don’t know any who are? The Bible identifies many of them by name.
  5. Matthias

    The curious case of John 5:4

    I’ve tried to address that in post #568.
  6. Matthias

    The curious case of John 5:4

    I took the liberty of bolding your comment. You don’t know any who are his children.
  7. Matthias

    The curious case of John 5:4

    I quoted your words (about only God knowing who his children are) and made the observation, which naturally follows, that you - since you aren’t God- don’t know any who are his children. If only God knows (your standard) and since you aren’t God then you don’t know any who are his children...
  8. Matthias

    The curious case of John 5:4

    The point is that my comment was about you, that by your own standard of measure you don’t know any who are his children. I graciously allowed that you know it about, but only about, yourself. What is there for me to explain? I reject your standard. Was that previously unclear to you?
  9. Matthias

    The curious case of John 5:4

    Let us accept his “opinion” (he believes it is reliable, as it testifies about him; they should have believed the testimony) about the OT. Does he have or not have an opinion about the NT?
  10. Matthias

    The curious case of John 5:4

    So now that takes us back to “You, apparently, don’t know any who are, besides yourself.”
  11. Matthias

    The curious case of John 5:4

    Thank you.
  12. Matthias

    The curious case of John 5:4

    “Only God knows who are his children” (post #538). You aren’t him, so, apply the standard to yourself. When you do, what does it look like? *** Yes, as a search of my posts would demonstrate.
  13. Matthias

    The curious case of John 5:4

    I try to abide by the rules of the Board. What is the worst that they can do? If they treat me fairly, I won’t be harmed. If they treat me unfairly, they are harming themselves.
  14. Matthias

    The curious case of John 5:4

    You, apparently, don’t know any who are, besides yourself. Yes. The heart of God, the mind of God, is revealed in the (reliable) Bible. I’ve seen what you say can’t happen, happen. I would refer all of my readers to the parable of the sower.
  15. Matthias

    The curious case of John 5:4

    It has to be more than a just a comfort, doesn’t it?
  16. Matthias

    The curious case of John 5:4

    The student didn’t think the Bible was unreliable, then he did (briefly) doubt that it is reliable, then he recovered with my assistance. (And perhaps with the assistance of others that I’m not aware of.) This thread was designed with a twofold purpose: (1) Would you be able to help such a...
  17. Matthias

    The curious case of John 5:4

    Everyone, myself included, is biased. Yes. It’s appalling to me, and not only me, how many people don’t study the Bible. Dusty Bibles are common. Yes, but they must hear and believe the gospel that Jesus and the Apostles preached in order to be saved. What I believe is that the intelligent...
  18. Matthias

    The curious case of John 5:4

    So it is your testimony that you have no idea who God’s children are?
  19. Matthias

    The curious case of John 5:4

    Yes. That is what happened. The Muslim in the incident wasn’t a student. If the student who was speaking with the Muslim, attempting to evangelize him, had any conversation with the Muslim about the reliability of the Quran, he didn’t mention it to me. The student was a teenager. The way...
  20. Matthias

    The curious case of John 5:4

    The expectation of the biblical writers is that it would be studied. The Ethiopian eunuch comes to mind as an opposition. For that to happen, someone who has read the Bible likely set the person on that course. Have you listened to people who don’t have a profound relationship with God...