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    Daniel 9:25 - the messiah the prince

    Matthew 24 16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: Jesus warned, the Judaean Christians heeded and acted and survived.
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Fair enough. Two Israels. Romans 9 6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: 7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. 8 That is, They which are the children of...
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Something's missing. Romans 10 1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved. Salvation does not appear in the list. Thus: 9 I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost, 2 That I have great heaviness...
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Amens bro. Dispen/premil attempts to interpret "His people" ethnically. But as you've and we've shown, "His people" are the foreknown spiritual "remnant according to the election of grace." Romans 11:2,5 Those faithful and obedient Covenant keepers true to God and His Son.
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    There are two different "they's" in Romans 11:28. Never and nowhere in Scripture are enemies of the gospel ever numbered with the election. Never and nowhere in Scripture do the twain meet unless and until the former as individuals accept Christ, and are then numbered with the latter. Paul...
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    I could scarcely have said it better myself. And no ethnic Israelite ever had or has any covenant identity apart from faithfulness and obedience to God and His Son. God's historical promises to the nation have only ever been to those of faith and obedience within the nation. Isaiah and Paul...
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    Daniel 9:25 - the messiah the prince

    Were the Judaean Christians wrong to literally heed Jesus' literal warnings, literally act upon them, and literally preserve their lives?
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Israel from its birth was comprised of both Jews and Gentiles. God's covenant people were the Jews and Gentiles faithful and obedient to Him and His Covenant, within the nation. Genesis 17:12 And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every man child in your generations, he...
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Did God ever establish His historical covenant purposes with any ethnic Israelites who were unfaithful and disobedient?
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    What is your definition of "His people"? What identifies them as "His people"?
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Paul confirms the identity of "His People" in Romans 11:5. They are those in Christ, the "remnant according to the election of grace." Only that remnant will be saved. Romans 9:27 Paul further identifies them as "His People which He foreknew". Peter confirms Paul in identifying "His People...
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    Daniel 9:25 - the messiah the prince

    Matthew 21:12 And Jesus went into His body of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in His body, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves, 1. Jesus was already in His body. Why did He go into His body again? :laughing: 2. Why had He...
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    But if they're determined, then the start and end points of each week, including the last, are known. Dispen's 70th isn't known (and never will be :laughing:).
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Yes. Also because Daniel declares that 70 weeks are determined, not 69.
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Keep those guffaws coming. :laughing: Here is the understanding of the 70 weeks by the early Church. It was only about 15 centuries before SDA. :laughing: Clement of Alexandria The Stromata, or Miscellanies Book I Chapter XXI.—The Jewish Institutions and Laws of Far Higher Antiquity Than...
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    You've been shown how "cut off" clarifies and enhances the meaning, but you'd rather stay decapitated, orphaned, unfulfilled, and undetermined. :laughing:
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Here's the word that you're terrified to cite: chathak Here are its meanings: Lexical Summary: 1. (properly) to cut off, i.e. (figuratively) to decree Strong's Exhaustive Concordance: A primitive root; properly, to cut off, i.e. (figuratively) to decree -- determine. Its primary, i.e. proper...
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Daniel says "determined". You say "silly". Whom to believe? 1. You or 2. Daniel Need a hint? :laughing:
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    Daniel 9:25 - the messiah the prince

    You claim that the temple was Christ's body. So I merely substituted your claim for the plain words of Inspired Scripture. The resulting context is your context, not mine. So you're complaining about the Scripture without your context, and your're complaining about the Scripture with your...