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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    The question is, who invented a modernist meaning of apostasy?
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Apostasy as rapture in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 was unseen, unsaid, and unknown in true Christian orthodoxy prior to the 19th century. The relevant Bible translations which it is claimed contain the dogma were all written by Reformers from the 14th to 17th centuries. No Reformer ever heard of a...
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    "Rapture" as "departure" is a modernist malinterpretation nonexistent in the historical orthodox Church before the 19th century. Same with the Church as "restrainer".
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    See: The Church's Escape to Pella Biblical historical fulfillment.
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    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    In God's New Will and Testament, all covenants and promises are fulfilled only in Christ, and in those who are in Christ. The OT covenants and promises are the promissory clauses of God's Old Will and Testament, and they are both revoked and fulfilled in the promissory clauses of His New Will...
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    Daniel 9:25 - the messiah the prince

    So you believe that the Judaean Christians who fled were reformed preterists. :laughing: What did they do to become reformed preterists? :laughing:
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    Daniel 9:25 - the messiah the prince

    History proves it, and grammar proves it because the grammatical referent/antecedent of "he" is Messiah the Prince.
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    Daniel 9:25 - the messiah the prince

    Daniel's weeks are determined. Yours aren't. "its that simple". :laughing:
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    Daniel 9:25 - the messiah the prince

    Grammar's rules are objective. Interpretation is subjective. Grammar's rules should be applied first, to maximize the probability of correct interpretation.
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    Daniel 9:25 - the messiah the prince

    I have Jesus Christ. You have antichrist. I'll keep Jesus Christ. You keep antichrist. :laughing:
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    There is no equal to the centuries of the apostate papacy. The Reformers whom God raised up got it right.
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    Daniel 9:25 - the messiah the prince

    Messiah the Prince.
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Here are the 144,000. The Church of the Redeemed through all ages from beginning to end. Immeasurably Grand and Glorious. The Church and the 144,000 Revelation 7:3-4 describe the 144,000 as “sealed.” That description is reserved in the NT for believers in Christ – His Body and Bride – His...
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    Daniel 9:25 - the messiah the prince

    Utter nonsense. They fled because they believed Jesus, not you. They fled because, unlike you, they knew that Jesus was not conjecture. They weren't hyperspiritualized gnostics. And Jesus, whom they believed, preserved their lives. They didn't end up like you. How was your crucifixion...
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    Daniel 9:25 - the messiah the prince

    Meanwhile, the Judaean Christians were fleeing as Jesus had warned, and surviving. While you were being crucified. :laughing:
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    Daniel 9:25 - the messiah the prince

    You're afraid of the Judaean Christians' exposure of your bilge, bunk, and bafflegab. They were immeasurably smarter than you. Unlike you, they believed Jesus' literal warning literally, and escaped. Not one of them was a hyperspiritualized gnostic. Meanwhile, back in Jerusalem, you were...
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    Daniel 9:25 - the messiah the prince

    Cowardice. Trademark of a cult. :laughing:
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    Daniel 9:25 - the messiah the prince

    Post 130. What are you afraid of? :laughing:
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    Daniel 9:25 - the messiah the prince

    Evidently post 130 is your hot kitchen. :laughing:
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    If Paul had believed that all ethnic Israel would be saved, he would have been beyond ecstatic. But he wasn't, and we've seen the distinctions that he draws between the Israel that will be saved and the Israel that will not be saved. The difference being between faithfulness and obedience, and...