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Can you give an example where the gospel is any different for a group or “dispensation” than it is right now?

That’s not how a see Heavenly Jerusalem. Most of the church hasn’t entered Heavenly Jerusalem yet, in fact most of the church is waiting for a cube to come down from heaven.

I’m not a preterist, I don’t identify with hardly anything a preterist believes. I read the Bible and whatever it says that’s what I believe.

Heavenly Jerusalem isn’t something that a non-believer even knows exists, it’s a spiritual state a believer lives in.

Revelation 11:2 kind of squashes that idea doesn’t it? How do Gentiles tread under foot Heavenly Jerusalem? It has to be a literal physical earthly temple. Rev 11:2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city...

I see no biblical evidence for a physical kingdom.

I think the version of the resurrection taught and believed by most of Christianity is causing people to think Revelation 11 is future.

Defining it didn’t serve a purpose in our conversation but my definition of it is - God deals with specific groups of people in different specified ways which is not biblical.

I agree. The second coming was when Christ came in all power and glory to rule and reign with a rod of iron, meaning Daniels iron kingdom, the spiritual kingdom Jesus is using on the world right now. The verses I gave prove the kingdoms of this world belong to Jesus, we just have to accept that...

That's a valid point, and I don't pretend to have a full answer for it. What I'd say is this: there are things Revelation places after the image of the beast that we can verify from Scripture as already accomplished. The resurrection. The kingdoms of this world now under the rule of Christ. The...

Yes Revelation 11:15-19 has happened and the resurrection is still happening today but, as with most everything else in the Bible, people have been taught a resurrection that is not biblical which is a thread topic on its own. To be clear, I'm not arguing Psalm 18 is a one-to-one account of...

The Jews were under grace too. The law only applies to those who don’t put their faith in Christ. David was under grace, all of the Old Testament believers were under grace. That’s why I posted the verse I posted. It says the covenant of grace was before the law and the law didn’t override the...

I’ve been replying with my phone and I can’t half see on it so I’m going to pause discussion until I get to my laptop. The conversations with you have been good for me and I appreciate you hanging in with me even though our views are different.

Sacrificing animals was never a dispensation. What kind of dispensation do you think animal sacrifices was? A dispensation of what? David was saved by grace through faith just like we are. Do you agree with that part at least?

Two things one is the resurrection and the other is the great hail and lightning’s and such. Take just a minute and read Psalm 18. Here is part of it just to show the context and timing of the events described there. Yes that’s David speaking but he’s speaking prophetically of Christ. Read what...

My point is Jesus being King of kings and the kingdoms of this world becoming His has already happened. That means everything prior to that has already happened. If the 7th trumpet announced a reign that Jesus didn't already have, then explain these: Matthew 28:18 — "All power is given unto me...

When did the kingdoms of this world become the kingdoms of our Lord?

All that verse says is that Jesus came in sinful human flesh. How is that corrupt?

They’re trying to destroying all life on earth. Birds, bees, cows, deer, people. They’re transhumanist and none of those things are needed in a transhumanist world.

There are no contradictions in scripture. What you call a contradiction is where the deepest secrets in the Bible are hidden.