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We see that differently. I see the MOB as ongoing but you see it as future.

Gal 3:17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect. The grace before, during and after the law is the same grace we have today.

You believe the mark is physical because it fits your belief system. I believe the mark is a trait or distinguishing feature because it fits my belief system. So how do we determine which view is right? EVERY single thing has to mesh perfectly together with no contradictions. When a belief...

Paul was given the job of dispensing the gospel. That's all three of those verses are saying. 1 Cor 9:17 — "committed unto me." Eph 3:2 — "given me to you-ward." Col 1:25 — "given to me for you." Given to him. Personally. He was handed the gospel and told to deal it out. Col 1:25 says he was...

@David in NJ - I couldn't quote your post for some reason this is for you too. sml Do you both agree that the revelation given in this book was communicated in signs? John says so himself — Rev 1:1 says Jesus ἐσήμανεν it, "signified" it, made it known by sign. So I'll assume we're agreed there...

I know dispensationalism teach but I dont see that anywhere in the bible.

Salvation is never lost which means a believer can’t be in a state of receiving the mark at the believer’s death.

A person is either saved or not. That is plain and simple no interpretation needed, it is straight forward. But, I have no intentions of taking any mark of any kind or even digital ID.

I'm not going to argue over it, I know you're wrong, most of the people on this thread know you are wrong so I say you're right where God wants you to be.

The gospel according to episkopos is not the gospel of the Bible and if that’s what you prefer than that’s what you should do.

What you’re describing isn’t Christianity, it’s your idea of what Christianity should be because you have no standard to base your beliefs on. Basically this is how all cults come about.

Which Lord? The Lord people create in their minds or the Lord of the Bible?

Why isn’t God able to inspire translators to write exactly what he wants written?

Ok then why have a Bible in the first place if it can’t be trusted?

I’m just trying to help Crow.

I agree with all of that Scott.

That’s your opinion, it’s not fact. Prove that opinion from the Bible and I’ll believe you.

I can respect that view. That view doesn’t try to change the meaning of “soon” or “at hand”. It isn't absurd to think everything recorded in Revelation has already happened. But notice how much of your reasoning against it rests on your current understanding of the resurrection. One doctrine...

@ewq1938 Both of you gave basically the same response, so this covers both. Strong's is a concordance. What that means is it's an index to the King James Bible — it was built so you could look up an English word and find every verse it appears in. The numbers exist to connect English words...

You've done a lot of work on one word, but the argument doesn't only hinge on tachy. Two verses after the one you're parsing, John uses a different word entirely. Revelation 1:3 — "the time is at hand." That's engys. It means near, close at hand. It's not a word about speed at all, it's a word...