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  1. David Lamb

    God Commands Righteous Violence

    I have not even mention defending a helpless person who is being attacked. I have been talking all along of the fact that nowhere in the Bible do we read of Christians retaliating with violence when they themselves are persecuted. But Jesus said those words and acted them out. If we read the...
  2. David Lamb

    God Commands Righteous Violence

    Where does Romans 13 say that God has put us in authority? The chapter opens: NKJV Rom 13:1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. The "governing authorities" as far as the Romans...
  3. David Lamb

    Once saved always saved

    Peter when he wrote his first epistle certainly didn't even hint to his Christian readers that a sinner truly saved by Jesus Christ could be lost: NKJV 1Pe 1:1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, To the pilgrims of the Dispersion in Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, 1Pe 1:2 elect...
  4. David Lamb

    THE SERMON ON THE MOUNT WAS FOR ISRAEL

    In Acts 2, as I have just replied to another post of yours.
  5. David Lamb

    THE SERMON ON THE MOUNT WAS FOR ISRAEL

    Acts 2:22-24 Acts may have been written later than Galatians, but the events recorded in Acts 2 took place on the Day of Pentecost, long before Galatians was penned by Paul, and before Paul was even appointed as an apostle.
  6. David Lamb

    THE SERMON ON THE MOUNT WAS FOR ISRAEL

    Of course we don't read of Peter preaching the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus before those things happened. Like the rest of the disciples, he didn't understand the predictions Jesus gave of these things. But afterwards, Peter preached those things and wrote about them. His preaching...
  7. David Lamb

    THE SERMON ON THE MOUNT WAS FOR ISRAEL

    But if there are no divisions today (as there weren't in Paul's day - Romans 10:12) between Jewish and Gentile Christians, why the need for saying there must be two gospels, one for Jews, and one for Gentiles? Many times, Paul says that he preaches the gospel of Christ yet you say Jesus...
  8. David Lamb

    THE SERMON ON THE MOUNT WAS FOR ISRAEL

    But although Paul was indeed specifically appointed as the apostle to the Gentiles, Peter (not Paul) was sent to Cornelius, a Gentile. Did Cornelius respond by saying, "I won't listen to you. I am a Gentile, and you are not the apostle to the Gentiles"? Of course he didn't. He said to Peter...
  9. David Lamb

    THE SERMON ON THE MOUNT WAS FOR ISRAEL

    Thanks for the information. I don't agree that Gentile Christians should regard the Epistles other than those penned by Paul as not applying to them. These verses from the beginning of Peter's first epistle do not apply only to ethnically-Jewish Christians: NKJV 1Pe 1:3 Blessed be the God and...
  10. David Lamb

    THE SERMON ON THE MOUNT WAS FOR ISRAEL

    I had never heard of doctrine.org before, so I went to the site, but I couldn't see any information about who runs the site, or what their beliefs are. However, if you say that they teach that there are two gospels, and that Paul preached a different gospel to the one Jesus preached, I think...
  11. David Lamb

    THE SERMON ON THE MOUNT WAS FOR ISRAEL

    The Old Testament teachings about things which were fulfilled in Christ (animal sacrifices, tabernacle scapegoat, cities of refuge) should not be ignored by Christians, because although they were fulfilled in Christ, they are helpful in picturing for us aspects of our Saviour. What I mean is...
  12. David Lamb

    God Commands Righteous Violence

    I would suggest that Stephen was extremely brave, but he did not use violence against those stoning him. Nowhere in the Bible are Christians commanded to retaliate violently when they are persecuted, nor is there any example of an apostle or any Christian mentioned in the New Testament being...
  13. David Lamb

    THE SERMON ON THE MOUNT WAS FOR ISRAEL

    No, certainly not. As those verses I quoted from Hebrews say, Jesus Christ offered Himself as the one sacrifice for sins forever.
  14. David Lamb

    THE SERMON ON THE MOUNT WAS FOR ISRAEL

    But Foxe's Book of Martyrs was not written until the 16th century so that is hardly a prime source. Foxe must have obtained the information from somewhere else.
  15. David Lamb

    God Commands Righteous Violence

    Sorry, I usually put "NKJV" before my quotes from the Bible. I forgot to do so this time. As to the matter of whether the verse says that it was for that sake of the father or the sake of the fathers, thew ASV, BBE, CEV, ESV, ISV, KJV, LSB, MKJV, NET, WEB, and YLT all have it in the plural...
  16. David Lamb

    THE SERMON ON THE MOUNT WAS FOR ISRAEL

    Yes of course animal sacrifices are part of the Bible. However, the Bible clearly states that animal sacrifices can never actually take away sin: NKJV Heb 10:4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and goats could take away sins. Later in the same chapter we are told how Jesus Christ...
  17. David Lamb

    THE SERMON ON THE MOUNT WAS FOR ISRAEL

    I know that he was replying to those words from you. What I don't understand is how you can get from his words any idea that he believes that animal sacrifices are required to have our sins forgiven. Perhaps he will reply himself. I will leave it to him to say whether or not he believes in...
  18. David Lamb

    THE SERMON ON THE MOUNT WAS FOR ISRAEL

    How do you get that from what Luther7 wrote? He mentioned the sacrifice of the Saviour for His people, but not animal sacrifices.
  19. David Lamb

    God Commands Righteous Violence

    Yes, that is God the Father speaking to God the Son saying that He, God, will make Christ's enemies His footstool. Nothing about Christians being violent to their enemies. First, although Romans 11:28 mentions the word "enemies", there is no indication that the Christians to whom Paul is...
  20. David Lamb

    Believers who affair then marry are ongoing adulterers yet still saved ?

    What I meant (and sorry if I was not clear) was that the early church did not "invent" doctrines which then became encoded in the New Testament. Rather, they sought to spread the gospel Christ had preached. 10 times, Paul refers to the gospel he preached as "the gospel of Christ." For example...