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  1. The Gospel of Christ

    When Doctrine Corrects Christ

    Whether we’re in the last days is irrelevant to the question. I asked you why people who reject Christ still count as “His people,” while their geopolitical enemies automatically become “His enemies.” “Last days” doesn't answer that. The Messiah will return, and to whoever is in control of...
  2. The Gospel of Christ

    When Doctrine Corrects Christ

    So... the NT says God's chosen people are Jews & Gentiles who follow Christ. 1 Peter 2:9–10 - Christ’s people are the "chosen race, royal priesthood and holy nation." You ignore that as best you can. Jew and Gentile are made “one new man” in Christ — Ephesians 2:15 You ignore that...
  3. The Gospel of Christ

    When Doctrine Corrects Christ

    Nobody is upset that “Israel” appears thousands of times in Scripture. The dispute is over what the apostles say Israel means after Christ. If you went back to the apostolic Church and told them that a secular nation-state founded nearly 1,900 years later would become the controlling...
  4. The Gospel of Christ

    When Doctrine Corrects Christ

    It doesn’t upset me. It proves the point. You just defined Jesus primarily through ethnic Israel, land, Jerusalem, and national destiny... exactly the categories I said your system keeps forcing back over Christ. Yes, Jesus is King of Israel. So the King defines Israel. The problem is not...
  5. The Gospel of Christ

    When Doctrine Corrects Christ

    You just keep proving the argument again and again. You keep taking Christ and forcing Him back underneath the categories that were supposed to point TO HIM. That is inverted Christianity. The Christian order is: Moses → Christ Prophecy → Christ Promise → Christ Shadow → Christ Israel → its...
  6. The Gospel of Christ

    When Doctrine Corrects Christ

    You don’t even understand the argument. Nobody said ignore the Old Testament. The argument is that CHRIST INTERPRETS THE OLD TESTAMENT FOR CHRISTIANS. Jesus and Paul quoted the Old Testament because it testified about CHRIST and was fulfilled in CHRIST. Quoting Moses does not put Moses back...
  7. The Gospel of Christ

    When Doctrine Corrects Christ

    Computer, according to his writings, would Ignatius of Antioch, disciple and hearer of John the Apostle, consider teaching like Reverend Hagee’s to place Christians in any kind of spiritual danger? “Yes, unequivocally. Ignatius explicitly warned Christians NOT to Judaize and said that if...
  8. The Gospel of Christ

    When Doctrine Corrects Christ

    You just magically inserted “AND HE DID!” into Ezekiel like it was inspired text. It isn’t. Ezekiel never says “1948.” And you conveniently split the prophecy in half... the LAND is supposedly fulfilled by a twentieth-century state, while the ONE HEART and NEW SPIRIT are suddenly "on...
  9. The Gospel of Christ

    When Doctrine Corrects Christ

    Somewhere in a holler in Tennessee, 1930 the devil walked into town… “Hey Jebediah, did ya hear the news?! Jesus Christ isn’t Israel anymore!” Jebediah: “HE AIN’T WHAT?!” “That’s right! Turns out all those Christians for the last one-thousand and nine hundred years had it all wrong!”...
  10. The Gospel of Christ

    When Doctrine Corrects Christ

    Trying to save your soul is exhausting. “My people Israel.” Yes.. and the whole question is who constitutes God’s covenant people after Christ. You keep reading Israel, then magically fast-forwarding 2,000 years, pointing at a modern state, and pretending the word itself proves your...
  11. The Gospel of Christ

    When Doctrine Corrects Christ

    Christ can return to Jerusalem without Jerusalem being the covenant center of Christianity. Bethlehem was where Christ was born, Golgotha was where He was crucified. Jerusalem was where He rose and where Pentecost occurred. None of that means Christians are covenantally defined by possession of...
  12. The Gospel of Christ

    When Doctrine Corrects Christ

    That's exactly the problem. You keep pointing at land as though Christians are supposed to be spiritually impressed by dirt after Christ. “Do you have a map? Is Israel there?” Yea, so what? To a Christian, modern Israel may be historically important and worth visiting because biblical events...
  13. The Gospel of Christ

    When Doctrine Corrects Christ

    Here we go again... You just smuggled your conclusion into the word “Israel.” Ezekiel says God gathers Israel. You immediately translate that into: “God brought the modern nation-state of Israel home in 1948.” Where does Ezekiel say that? Nowhere. Where does Christ say that? Nowhere...
  14. The Gospel of Christ

    When Doctrine Corrects Christ

    This isn’t hard and is easily demonstrable… All you have to do is project God’s Word on the jumbo screens of an auditorium so the whole audience can read it, then let Hagee just preach for an hour. That’s the whole act. No comedian needed. No writers, no punchlines. Just let him preach while...
  15. The Gospel of Christ

    When Doctrine Corrects Christ

    You changed the subject again. Nobody said Scripture contains no future events. The question is whether a future event somehow resurrects an obsolete covenant, recreates two covenant peoples, and turns modern geopolitical Israel into the New Testament definition of Israel. It does not. You...
  16. The Gospel of Christ

    When Doctrine Corrects Christ

    Christ says, “My Kingdom is not of this world.” Your system answers God incarnate: “No, Lord, you're wrong. It’s right here on the map, and it’s made of dirt.” That is not interpretation. That's your theology correcting Christ. Repent
  17. The Gospel of Christ

    When Doctrine Corrects Christ

    No. That burden doesn’t reverse. Christ is standing there speaking to His hearers and says “THIS generation.” That's the generation actually present in the discourse. You are the one replacing that audience with another generation thousands of years later. So the question remains exactly...
  18. The Gospel of Christ

    When Doctrine Corrects Christ

    You guys are proving the thread faster than I can even write it. Jack quotes Amos while ignoring how the apostles themselves use Amos in Acts 15. Now you answer the New Testament with Zechariah. That's the problem. Every time Christ or the apostles define the covenant in Christ, you flee...
  19. The Gospel of Christ

    When Doctrine Corrects Christ

    And what does “die trying” have to do with the Gospel of Christ? We were discussing covenant identity, and within one paragraph you've turned it into people dying over meaningless terrestrial borders. Christ said His Kingdom is not of this world. You immediately answered with land and death...
  20. The Gospel of Christ

    When Doctrine Corrects Christ

    I'm sorry, I don't know what religion you follow exactly, maybe I'm not familiar with it.. I follow God's Word and that of the apostles, their disciples and the architects of Christianity itself. Matthew 21:43 — the kingdom is taken and given. Not paused, not put on prophetic layaway, not...