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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    True, because this is referring to what shall be as God creates new heavens and a new earth.
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    You've presented your opinions but without any verification from Scripture for what you believe. I desire to learn from the Word of God, if you don't answer from the Word of God, why would I believe you have rightly divided the Bible?
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    These words, through lamentation are directed upon the "king of Tyrus", a human being. How was king Tyrus in Eden the garden of God? Would you agree that all of humankind are according to seed of Adam & Eve? A&E were created perfect until iniquity was found in them. King Tyrus, like A&E from...
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    How do YOU define this verse? What do you believe Isaiah means? Bear in mind the context for understanding this verse shall be fulfilled when "I create a new heavens and a new earth". The new heavens and new earth are being created as the gospel of the Kingdom of God through Christ is...
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    Because the time, symbolically called a/the thousand years for Satan being locked in a pit will end when time given this earth for building the Kingdom of God in heaven is complete. Then Satan will be set free from his pit for a little season just before Christ shall come again. All time...
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    Nowhere does Scripture speak of Satan being created before the beginning when God created all things in heaven and earth in six literal days. Nor does Scripture tell us Satan fell. He is depicted as the serpent created more cunning and crafty than any other beast of the field that God created...
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    When we read of the serpent in the beginning it metaphorically represents Satan at creation when all things in heaven and earth were created in six literal days. I agree the Bible does not speak of the creation of Satan before the six days of creation. The opinion that Satan was created good...
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    How can a thousand years equate to literal time since the souls John sees in heaven are still alive after they have physically been martyred for their faith? When they were physically alive, they were faithful unto death. John writes "they lived and reigned with Chris a thousand years." They...
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    This is all true, but for now, as long as there is still time before the seventh trumpet sounds, we are in the Kingdom of God when we are born again spiritually (have been saved), NOT physically. We are in the Kingdom of God through the Spirit of Christ in us the moment we believe...
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    I pray as taught from the Word of God, beginning "our Father".
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    Yes, unless they have believed in vain! Some have and many still do and will have vain faith that does not come from being born again, and will last only for a time until it fades away. 1Co 15:1 ¶ Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel (WORD) which I preached unto you, which...
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    Please allow me to flip the question around to you.... where does the Bible say one can be eternally saved who has not been born again?
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    What did Christ tell the Jews of Old about who He is and how He gives eternal life? They do not believe in Him because they do not have the Word (Christ) abiding in them. They searched the Scriptures believing they had eternal life, the Scriptures (Word of God) testify of Christ. But they...
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    Eternal salvation is indeed based upon being born again from above! There will be many souls standing before God at the judgment believing they are eternally saved, but they will hear Christ say to them, "Depart from Me, I do not know you." Why? Because the faith they thought would eternally...
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    This is very true! Many who profess to having been born again do not possess faith that eternally saves and therefore are not eternally saved! I believe they are those who are among the body of Christ (church) in this age, who shall fall away from faith, never having known faith of Christ that...
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    I don't want or desire to go through tribulation! However, I must acknowledge the teaching of Christ when He tells us that "great tribulation" is the destiny for His disciples as we faithfully proclaim the gospel of the Kingdom of God through Christ. I don't worry about the wrath of God that...
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    If you were saved 15 years ago it's because you had been born again, or as CrowCross puts it "born from above". Otherwise, you were not eternally saved.
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    Sorry! I misunderstood what you said, I thought even though saying this you agreed with IndianaRob who is saying being born again is NOT being eternally saved.
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    I always capitalize the Word of God in the same way I capitalize Christ. Why? Because Christ is God who is the Word, the Word that became flesh and dwelt among man. We preach the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ preaching from the written Word. When we believe in the Word, we believe in Christ...