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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    The city as it now is in heaven is a spiritual habitation through the spiritual body or living souls of all who died after being born again. It's not until the first heaven and earth have passed away that the holy city, new Jerusalem will come down in human form made immortal & incorruptible...
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    While clothed in human flesh and blood, Christ is fully human while never ceasing to be fully God.
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    So you believe Jerusalem above, the holy city that shall come down from heaven is a brick & mortar physical building?
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    No, the Bible teaches we shall be caught up to meet the Lord in the clouds pre-wrath, but does not teach pre-trib. Because Scripture affirms Christ disciples must endure much tribulation entering into the Kingdom of God. Acts 14:22 (KJV) Confirming the souls of the disciples, and...
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    It would help if you prove what you allege through the Word of God. Post the verses from which you allege or what you allege is mere assumption or speculation. None will be bodily changed before the hour coming when the last/seventh trumpet sounds that time given whereby man must be saved...
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    It makes sense when we understand the city of saved people in heaven are the spiritual body of Christ; living souls without human form. They are the New Jerusalem the city that shall come down from heaven with the Lord. They are spirits (not flesh & blood) of men made perfect. They come with...
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    It's also Biblical truth! Which you seem not to believe!
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    Only one rapture of all the saints, and only one second coming of Christ

    The judgment depicted allegorically came to spiritually turn Egypt from idols to the true God. We know this because the Lord never literally rode on a swift cloud to bring judgment. There is no allegoric depiction of that which came literally to Israel of Old. The judgment of God came...
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    Jesus fulfilled ALL the Old Law through His righteous life, sacrificial death, and miraculous resurrection! Once Christ came, the purpose of the Law was finished. The Law of Old served as a teacher until Christ came. Then it was made manifest that we are all children of God not by biological...
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    Why would Paul or any New Covenant Christian assume things done according to Old Covenant Law must also be done under the New Covenant through Christ? The Law for literal/physical trumpets to be blown of Old ended with the advent of Christ coming to earth a man. Hebrews 8:6-13 (KJV) But now...
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    Christ only left believers physically! But when we have been born again NOTHING shall separate us from the love of God through Christ. We are not with Him NOW physically, but spiritually we are with Him forever. And now we are spiritually eating of the bread of life when we have partaken of...
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    Aren't we made ready when we have been born again and possess eternal life?
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    Where did Paul write about a different trumpet? Please produce the verses where Paul speaks of a trumpet that shall be different? Perhaps you're referring to the passage from 1Cor 15:51-52 "Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in...
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    Only one rapture of all the saints, and only one second coming of Christ

    Christ shall physically come again for His people. But the Kingdom of God has already come for His people (whosoever have been born again).
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    Only one rapture of all the saints, and only one second coming of Christ

    Of course there is a separation between the spiritual coming of the Kingdom of God and Christ coming for the second time. To date the separation is around two thousand years! If you're still waiting for the Kingdom of God to come to man, then you are not listening to or reading what Christ...
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    Only one rapture of all the saints, and only one second coming of Christ

    God most assuredly did send a final judgment against Israel of Old in 70 AD, but Christ neither returned the second time physically or spiritually then. That's why it makes zero sense to argue Christ actually came in judgment as Preterits argue. What came, just as Christ said it would...
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    When the last/seventh trumpet sounds and Christ has come again all of humankind, both the dead and the living, shall either be caught up to meet the Lord in the clouds, or they shall be burned up along with the earth and everything on it. Then shall come the great white throne judgment when...
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    Only one rapture of all the saints, and only one second coming of Christ

    Christ says the Kingdom of God was near at hand because it would spiritually come after the cross and three days later His resurrection. The Kingdom of God that came with Christ cannot be visibly seen, because the Kingdom of God is within and in the midst of believers. After the cross and...
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    Only one rapture of all the saints, and only one second coming of Christ

    According to the Bible Christ will make an appearance only a second time. Hebrews 9:28 (KJV) So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation. Matthew 24 speaks of the second coming, just as...