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    The end of the world, as taught by Christ, separates the wicked from the just at the harvest, and it is coming for you.

    Well, I agree God does allow evil things to happen to saved people, people who are in the kingdom, but I don’t think the tares represent evil events, they represent children of the wicked. According to John 3:5 a person must be born of water and Spirit to enter the kingdom.
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    The end of the world, as taught by Christ, separates the wicked from the just at the harvest, and it is coming for you.

    Right, I agree, the farmer never lost possession of His field. Saying the tares enter the kingdom at the very end of the age, when the kingdoms of this world become the kingdoms of our Lord, creates that problem of the farmer losing His field then getting it back. Another way the Amils are...
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    The end of the world, as taught by Christ, separates the wicked from the just at the harvest, and it is coming for you.

    The tares are sown in His field. Does Jesus loose possession of His field then regain it again?
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    The end of the world, as taught by Christ, separates the wicked from the just at the harvest, and it is coming for you.

    I agree, the tares are pulled out of the kingdom at the harvest, end of the age and I also agree there are only two conditions of mankind, either saved or unsaved. John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Numbers 35:4 And the suburbs of the cities, which ye shall give unto the Levites, shall reach from the wall of the city and outward a thousand cubits round about. Some people consider the land where the Roman armies stood just prior to the siege to be a holy place based on what the Levites were...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    When I look at the various end time views I see some people, who for the most part, are very dramatic and have an aversion to prophecy being fulfilled on anyone other than themselves or during their lifetime. It’s a matter of looking at the news and finding some scripture that could possibly be...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Well, Preterism just means seeing prophesied things as being fulfilled, I think most people on this forum are partial preterist in that they see at least some things filled. To a Jew, who doesn’t think Jesus was the Messiah, all Christians are preterist. There’s one thing all eschatological...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Yes, I agree, Genesis 4:10 certainly needs to be considered. In Matthew 23:35 all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias will come on Jerusalem. Whatever Jerusalem is or represents it dwells on the earth when the...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Here’s my critique of the summary ChatGPT gave … Correct Under the new covenant we are to forgive each other. Stephen is an example of this where he says “lay not this sin to their charge” in Acts 7:60. Consider Jim Elliot, the missionary who was killed trying to bring the gospel to a native...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Ok, so let me get this straight, all the souls under the altar at the fifth seal are people in paradise and some of them have been there for almost 2,000 years. Then when the second coming happens they all in unison ask the Revelation 6:10 question knowing full well that the answer to that...
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    All who are not taken up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes will be left behind and killed.

    If everything happens in a twinkling of an eye then how is it the dead in Christ rise first while at that same twinkling of an eye the tares are gathered first? 1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the...
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    How to determine what’s been fulfilled

    Thanks for the clarification. You mentioned the three wisemen in your other post and we certainly know that they had some kind of method they used to determine when Jesus was born, undoubtedly they used information that came from Daniel, and most likely the seventy weeks but we don’t know for...
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    How to determine what’s been fulfilled

    Thanks for your post, I can definitely appreciate charts. I have personal experience trading stocks using technical analysis. On your chart it appears you have all known prophecies being fulfilled between mid April and mid September. Is that correct? If so that is a very interesting and...
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    How to determine what’s been fulfilled

    Thanks for your reply. When I look at something that is prophesied to happen and I follow the instructions of Matthew 11:4 to hear and see, to me that would imply that from the time that prophecy was made all the events that were seen and heard need to be considered as possibilities for the...
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    How to determine what’s been fulfilled

    It seems to me that many of the differences between the various eschatological views are based on determining what has been fulfilled and what hasn’t been fulfilled. Obviously if the Bible says something is fulfilled we can know for certain that it’s fulfilled, like Jesus being the promised...
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    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    I agree with your assessment of John 14:2-3, those verses cross reference with the verses about New Jerusalem and the heavenly Jerusalem. I would say Jesus going to prepare a place signified His role as the mediator and the work He accomplished through His death, resurrection, and ascension. I...
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    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    I’m surprised you don’t have two NHNEs. From a previous conversation we had, you have two kingdoms of heaven. New Jerusalem comes down and is in NHNE in Revelation 21, yet we have currently come to the heavenly Jerusalem. Having only one NHNE should show that there is an overlap where OHOE...
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    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    One thing we do know is that Psalm 22:27 has to take place prior to an Amil NHNE where there is no more death. Psalm 22:29(NIV) All the rich of the earth will feast and worship; all who go down to the dust will kneel before him— those who cannot keep themselves alive.
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    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    Verses the Amil view of fire coming down from heaven, cooking all the humans to a golden brown which gives the poor defenseless birds a good meal, just prior to the end of the planet. Well, once you’re able to figure out Psalm 22:27 then I’ll let you know. Until then I’ll say sometimes...
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    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    The sword is the word of God and I would say the great supper of God is referring to communion, where we are to eat His flesh and drink His blood. Those in Revelation 19 are not worthy so they are pictured eating the flesh of kings, captains, mighty men … You still haven’t given a direct...