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Right. And the great tribulation cannot begin until the AOD is set up. Therefore, the great tribulation cannot be 7 years long as you claim. ?????????

I'm glad the grief was good. The gathering from heaven and earth is the second harvest seen here. Revelation 14 14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. 15 And another...

Correct. You must be reading a bad translation. KJV says that the prince that shall come will confirm a 7 year covenant. That does not mean that he makes a 7 year covenant. It means that he confirms a 7 year covenant. That 7 year covenant could be several years old before the AC confirms it...

There is absolutely nothing in this verse that says he great tribulation is 7 years long. That is impossible as the great tribulation does not start until the midst of the week when the AOD is set up. Yes, there is a 7 year covenant that the Antichrist will confirm but there is only 3.5 years...

You got one huge problem. Immediately after the tribulation. Jesus appears in heaven immediately after the tribulation. If in your timeline Jesus returns for Armageddon with the armies of heaven, why is He coming immediately after the tribulation? Wouldn't He come before the tribulation is over...

The Marriage Supper of the Lamb takes place in heaven. Revelation 19 And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God: When the great multitude is in heaven after Jesus comes for the...

No. It needed to be more difficult. Its simplicity was not adequate for the situation. Yes, I think the souls will go with Jesus to the earth when the dead in Christ rise. All return to heaven after the dead in Christ receive new bodies. This is the barley harvest which is celebrated on...

John has a vision of the 7 seals. In his vision he sees what will happen when each seal is actually opened in the future. Jesus leaves heaven at the 6th seal for a harvest which is seen here. Revelation 14 14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son...

I can't make it any simpler. If you don't understand what I posted, I am giving you solid advice.

With SIMPLE deductive reasoning you should be able to conclude that the tribulation is over at the 6th seal. If you are unable to do this, find a 7th to 9th grader to assist. I don't know how to make it any clearer. Matthew 24 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be...

When Jesus comes for the dead in Christ, He will bring the souls with Him. They get new bodies and return to heaven. The alive Church remains. Then when Jesus returns for the alive that remained, He will bring the dead in Christ with Him. There is no chance that I am contradicting Paul. The...

My critiques show that the tribulation ends at the 6th seal according to the Word of God. No need to dream anything up to make a timeline work as that is fruitless.

Always the same isn't it Little @Davy. RUN DAVY RUN. You start your personal attacks because you can't answer the questions that I ask. There is nothing you can do because you have no answers. The things you spout can easily be proven wrong. This is why I wonder why you would believe something...

You are just pulling something out of the air that is not supported by scripture. The Word of God says that the tribulation is over at the 6th seal. That's the end of the story. You don't understand how to make a timeline work using factual information provided by the Word of God. You are...

They are prophecies about events that WILL HAPPEN. When that 6th seal is opened the great tribulation will be over. JESUS WILL RETURN. He will send His angels to gather the elect from heaven and earth. Then the 7th seal is opened and the wrath of God begins.......the 7 trumpets and 7 vials. You...

Quite frankly, the Word of God says that the tribulation is over at the 6th, as the two scriptures below prove. Your opinion of post trib has nothing to do with when the tribulation is over. In reality post trib is really post wrath, but most don't understand that the great tribulation is not...

Exactly. And that is the error. The Word of God says the tribulation is over at the 6th seal. The fact that post trib wants to make that the 6th trump does not change the truth. If you would go by the Word of God, you would draw correct conclusions.

The problem with your point of view is that the tribulation is over at the 6th seal and the 6th trumpet occurs in the wrath of God.

What causes the tribulation to be over?

The souls will be brought when Jesus comes for the dead in Christ. I think that when Jesus returns for the alive that remain, He will bring the dead in Christ with Him who will already have new bodies. If I'm not mistaken you think that this event occurs at the end of the trumpets and...