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    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Both Matthew and Luke record Jesus’s words from the Mount of Olives, but they do so in different ways and with different emphasis. In both the words of Jesus are directed to the Church of what shall be directed toward faithful saints as the Gospel of the Kingdom of God through Christ is being...
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    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Can you explain from the Bible how the destruction in 70 AD fits "such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be"? Mark writes that "those days of affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall...
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    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Then do you also agree that great tribulation spoken by Christ to His disciples is not about 70 AD?
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    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Greetings TS, I am doing well, thank you for asking. Your reply is very helpful because it confirms what I believe Christ was meaning when He says there would be great tribulation for faithful saints in this world. Christ was not speaking of great tribulation that would come against Israel...
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    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Don't know what version you're using but according to the Strong's Concordance linked to KJV "the" is NOT there. And in fact "the" great tribulation is found nowhere in KJV of the Bible. Revelation 7:14 (KJV) And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which...
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    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    The Bible does NOT indicate "A" or "THE" great tribulation. Strong's Concordance confirms this. Nowhere in the Bible can you find (KJV) a or the great tribulation. Why? I believe it's because "great tribulation" is NOT limited to any single event or period throughout history. But is what...
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    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    When considering "great tribulation" not since the beginning of the world to that particular time, how can 70 AD qualify, since it did not destroy all but eight human souls as the world wide flood in the days of Noah had? How can it be said "as was not since the beginning of the world to this...
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    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Do you believe that any other great tribulation imaginable is like nothing ever before or shall ever be again? How can any tribulation event in this world throughout human history be compared with great tribulation that has come against the church as the Gospel of the Kingdom of God is being...
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    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    We are saved by grace through faith that comes from the power of God when we hear the Gospel of the Kingdom of God proclaimed and spiritually enter therein through Jesus Christ our Lord, believing in Him we repent of our sins and turn to Christ for EVERLASTING life which every born again...
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    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    I agree! When the temp climbs it's better to end the discussion, because it's so easy in these discussions to retort in kind. When that happens, we no longer resemble Christians debating doctrine, and more like we're doing the bidding of Satan!
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    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    Absolutely! Born again believers rejoice with the first century disciples because our names are written in heaven, recorded in the book of life from the foundation of the world. Luke 10:20 (KJV) Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice...
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    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    Yes, but it is using the Old Covenant nation as an example for the church! You're making it a conditional statement, but it is a statement for those of faith, that they might know that not all who call Christ Lord shall be saved! The context plainly shows that some in the church, just like...
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    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    Why are some of you continually taking statements of fact found in the Bible and making them conditional statements as though they teach one who is born again by grace through faith might fall away and lose the eternal life they received the moment they were born again??? Christ would not say...
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    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    Israel of Old departed from God through Unbelief! That means they were NEVER of faith in Him. Their hearts remained harden through the deceitfulness of sin. Hebrews 3:12-14 (KJV) Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God...
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    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    It's not possible for one's name to be blotted out of the book of life for all who are ordained to be saved. If it were the Bible would be filled with contradiction and confusion. The book of life/living/Lamb's book of remembrance written from the foundation of the world records the names of...
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    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    When are the names of all who will be eternally saved written in the book of life? When did God choose those who are eternally saved? What does the Bible say about the elect of God?
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    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    It does not say good works are required to be eternally saved. If good works plus faith is being taught, why did those who did good not realize the works they did would save them? The righteous were not taught it was their good works that saved them. Why, if we are saved by good works plus...
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    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    No, I don't believe a born again believer should do good to gain reward! I believe in this life born again believers are rewarded with blessings from God because our goal is to spiritually build the Kingdom of God by proclaiming the Gospel of Christ.
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    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    I've often come to a point where I feel compelled to end the discussion with some people in these forums! I've come to believe that many here are simply trolls whose true goal is to talk down to, belittle and accuse fellow Christians just because they do not agree with them.