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I'm stuck on words Marty? I wouldn't say you're stuck on words but that you are stuck on the unbiblical doctrine of Preterism. Yes, I know you claim to be PP, but still cannot receive what is written. Even though you say you are only a PP you still insist that great tribulation from God came...

Here you simply prove that you don't know what abomination of desolation means. Since that is the starting point for great tribulation you cannot understand great tribulation without knowing what Christ is referring to when He speaks of things His disciples shall have to endure as they/we...

I understand why the Preterit must argue both! But you fail to acknowledge that God says the church is called to endure great tribulation, while those in unbelief shall receive the wrath of God. Since you think they are great tribulation and the wrath of God are interchangeable, will you also...

Rev 2:22 is written to the church warning of great tribulation that shall come upon them who say they belong to Christ and do not. The Bible does not make a distinction between those in the church who have been born again, and those in the church who are in fact false prophets, liars and...

Preterists both part and full would do well to learn the difference between wrath that comes from God and great tribulation that comes from the world, the flesh and the devil. Great Tribulation and the Wrath of God are related but distinct events in biblical prophecy, with great tribulation...

You haven't??? Why do you continue to argue "great tribulation" Christ foretells pertains to 70 AD? When in fact the Bible calls what happened in 70 AD the wrath of God being poured out upon an apostate disobedient nation!

Sorry Truth7t7 I stopped reading your reply after reading the above. Since I am not Preterist (partial or full) and in fact fight against this unbiblical doctrine. If you desire a discussion from what I posted, "I would argue that "great tribulation" began when the Lord came to earth a man...

It is the spirit of man that gives them physical mortal life, and it is the Spirit of Christ within man that quickens the spirit of man with supernatural eternal life. John 6:63 (KJV) It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are...

I would argue that "great tribulation" began when the Lord came to earth a man, for that is when He ushered in the Kingdom of God that can only be known and entered when one has been born again of the Spirit. When one has been born again, just as Christ told His disciples before He departed...

Exactly! Paul affirmed being a Christian as being a follower of Christ, for which he hoped not only Agrippa, but that all people would become like him Christians!

Yes Marty, I agree whosoever among mankind experiences suffering and affliction it is tribulation to them. OTOH great tribulation that Christ said His disciples must endure comes from faithfulness to proclaim the Gospel of the Kingdom of God through Christ. Christ tells us all these things are...

How is great tribulation mentioned in Rev 2:18 any different than great tribulation Christ said His disciples must endure? Christ is writing to the church telling the church (His disciples) warning them of great tribulation that would come upon them if they don't repent for allowing false...

From my perspective I view the time of trouble, even trouble(s) that have come against Jews in this world, also came/come from the wrath of God. Just as God used Titus and the Roman Army to devastate apostate Israel, I believe God also used Hitler and the German Nazis to accomplish His purpose...

Marty, it is not my intention to attack or offend you! I have always thought of you as being more like-minded in biblical doctrine as I, with the exception of this particular preterist doctrine. In the past I kept silent when this doctrine came up for fear of offending those whom I call...

Not everyone is deceived only those who embrace the false doctrine of PP/FP. Apparently, that describes you! Because it is also apparent that truth once again does not set well with you when it comes from fellow Christians that you don't like! Sorry, but truth is more important to me than...

I don't deny that Marty! Problem is you also say the destruction of Israel in 70 AD was also called tribulation for them, implying the words Christ spoke SPECIFICALLY to His disciples about what they/we faithful saints MUST endure as we preach the Gospel of the Kingdom of God through Christ...

What seems often missed by FP/PP is how "great tribulation" that shall come against the building of the Kingdom of God in heaven as the Gospel of Christ is preached, comes through the power of evil and continues until the end of time when Christ shall come again! OTOH the "wrath" that comes...

Thank you for pointing out the argument I've been making which is how the destruction of Israel is not called "great tribulation", it is the same promise God has always made toward a disobedient, hard hearted people in unbelief, promising His WRATH would come upon them.

Truth annoying you??? Are you also deceived by the doctrine of PP, and therefore call speaking truth Pride? I do agree Scripture affirms "Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall." Matthew 7:3 (KJV) And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye...