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    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    I see it more as seeing things through spiritual eyes as opposed to eyes of the flesh or carnal eyes. For example, understanding that persecution often comes from our enemy who is using those who know us even family to try to bring us down, and will help us to not be hurt by it.
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    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    PROV. 8:22-30 22 The Lord created me at the beginningb of his work,c the first of his acts of long ago. 23 Ages ago I was set up, at the first, before the beginning of the earth. 24 When there were no depths I was brought forth, when there were no springs abounding with water. 25 Before...
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    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    They must have been petrified. I don't know perhaps His bodily form was unstable for a while. He was risen to life as we are when we are born again.
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    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    I guess God is revealing it to my spirit eh Rita. Not everything is written down but we can use our minds to work somethings out that are implied. We are given the framework and having spiritual minds can discern things not specified like for example, how a man knows he is called to the...
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    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Also to add, that after the resurrection, Jesus resumed His form, of that being a sort of halfway between spirit and material. Part of both.
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    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    God was in eternity. He was spirit and had no beginning, and was not begotten, and scripture says He can not change. He wanted to set up the universe, with the garden of Eden within, in order to produce His children, but He could not enter into another realm (physical) so in eternity, His Word...
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    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    I don't see anything you quoted refuted my belief that the Father was in eternity then brought forth the Word, one with Himself, of equal divinity at the point of creation, so He was there before the world began as He joined in its creation. I believe in the Trinity but think you don't quite...
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    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    That is correct...Jesus is not God the Father, the Source of all things. Jesus was begotten, and the Holy Spirit, proceeded from the Father . We have two sides battling, and sometimes being nasty with each other, when each of them are on the extreme edges. God the Father existed in eternity...
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    Atrial Fibrillation.

    The supplement industry is nearly as corrupt, with Big Pharma buying them out. Cheap fillers. This is a good company in the UK: https://www.british-supplements.net/ You must have them in the US.
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    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Here is Gary Hamrick on the Trinity listen from 13:55 to 23:17. I am not endorsing him...heck I am not a Protestant but he brings up a point not covered yet on the Greek for 'one' : https://cornerstonechapel.net/teaching/20241208/
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    Atrial Fibrillation.

    It means all of the measurements they do to get a fuller picture. I am very pleased to hear that your son is helping you. However, there is a vast difference between nutritionists, from the conventional medicine ones and the functional medicine ones. The medical system is now based on the...
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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    Interesting. I don't know where I belong now...maybe nowhere. Absolutely true. I have been into alternative medicine for a long time since being gaslighted by doctors, with my environmental illness (mercury and pesticide poisoning) so am my own doctor. And dentist for that matter and my eyes...
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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    It was after I came out of Calvinism that I found them, but if it had been during my 'reformed' days, it would surely have brought me out. Later I came out of Protestantism through reading them, and some of the more recent writers like Fr. John Romanides. I just don't get, how anyone can see...
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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    I am a long way from sliding GG. I am reading the scriptures that the Uni's amongst us quote, and considering them, but not how they interpret them, testing my understanding on scripture firstly. However I have not been swayed by any means, as I began to give the Trinity a fresh look before...
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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    No GG. It is, to me, what has been the mistaken teaching that has overcome the west, and won't be able to stand against the Unitarian takeover coming because they do have verses that can persuade others because they have a bit of truth .used with a huge error. Jesus Christ is not a creature...
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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    OK you just can't grasp that the Father was in eternity forever, then He brought forth His Son, at the point of creation, totally divine as well, not a creature like everything else that does not share in His essence. Only the Son and HS share in that and are therefore a trinity. Fully God and...
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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    Let's start at the beginning: In the beginning was the Word which is what I am saying. When was the beginning? Eternity is above time so there is no beginning there. It must mean the creation where Jesus was, by then present.
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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    I am changing my view on the Trinity after finding out about Eastern Orthodoxy, and absolutely believe in it but just not quite as I knew it before. I have been born again since 1974. God is eternal right? He has no beginning or end and He the Father is the source of everything. There was a...
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    Lessons learned from Jesus: the parable of the two sons, Biblical repentance #2

    Yes I was willing and have spent some time thinking it through. I appreciate the chance to do this. However, I have not come back to continue in discussion as it is futile when you were not prepared to do the same. Just to tie up a few ends. I did not mean that I alone have a different...