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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    I am not equipped at present to debate you and kindly ask if you would leave this thread as you are not able to keep on topic. I will say to you, that your view and the existing Trinitarian view expressed here, which I claim to not be the one of the early church, and are both imbalanced, two...
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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    As I have described to the last poster, the three are one in essence and all are divine and worthy of worship. There are some points of the Trinity that do not stand to logic but I believe that scripture gives us a good idea.
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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    Jesus is not like God the Father, the source of all things who is eternal therefore has no beginning, but is begotten by the Father. This is the point where it says 'in the beginning', the point at which the eternal God, had to make a change in order to enter time and space, being purely Spirit...
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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    Interesting. Then you will have some insight into the things I mentioned. Normally they are not allowed to prozelytise alone. Sad for you though. They break up families. There is an acceptance of minor differences from the early church onwards so long as they are not heretical, from leaders...
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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    And those who have been persuaded to think that Christ is not God, as the Muslims do, they will not put up much of a fight.
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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    Yes I know that Christianity has been infiltrated by Interfaith, But I don't see that as our biggest enemy. When the numbers of Muslims are great enough in each country, then they will take over and declare holy war which is what I am seeing.
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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    But I don't understand the concept of one world church, when Islam is growing by the day and they are not Universalists.
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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    But if you die, believing that Jesus is God and that every man will be saved in the end, how does that compare to dying and saying that Jesus was not God Almighty? The first one does not blaspheme.
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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    I think that Islam is the biggest threat, not liberalism, and they are not Universalists. Universalists will say believe in the Lord Jesus. Islam says He is only a prophet.
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    Atrial Fibrillation.

    @Ritajanice Not sure but might get sent to you afterwards as a recorded option. You can ask. Also not sure when it will get on her YT channel or if it will. By the way: "Naturally occurring compounds and elements such as magnesium have also been shown to act as calcium channel blockers when...
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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    I don't think that Universalism is such a threat to born-agains.
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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    Indeed, and making newcomers qualify what they mean by Christian concerning the trinity, is obviously missing here. Amen apart from your previous statement that the saved are taught by the Spirit on the trinity and therefore I say that logically cannot be saved if they teach otherwise. I don't...
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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    Indeed he is, and the other chap was way out of his league. Thank you.
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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    Dr Branson, is Eastern Orthodox, and would therefore add Tradition to that list. Not the traditions of men but those which were handed down, not only in writing, from the apostles (2 Thess 2:15). He is also a doctor of philosophy not theology, which does not disqualify him from the debate, I...
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    Atrial Fibrillation.

    Do you have Zoom - it is what will be used. I think it is 7 pm for us.
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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    OK I get what you said but I have been reading the rebuttals here. I need to grasp the Orthodox view before I go on to the Unitarian in depth. @GodsGrace
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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    Indeed and thank you, but you must as you do not understand the Monarchistic Trinitarian position. I used to believe exactly as James White does as I was a Calvinist so know that position very well. As for Oneness Pentecostalism I do not see the need to understand them as there are various...
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    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    Sorry I don't see the point of watching that debate as I believe that Jesus existed before the Incarnation.