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    The Orthodox Preterist versus the Heretical Dispensationalist

    It was and is God's covenant with His Chosen Faithful Obedient People throughout the ages; today, His Church. 5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ. 9 But ye are a chosen generation, a...
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    The Orthodox Preterist versus the Heretical Dispensationalist

    The only nation that He has ever and will ever preserve is His Holy Nation of the faithful and obedient. Matthew 21:43; 1 Peter 2:9. No others.
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    The Orthodox Preterist versus the Heretical Dispensationalist

    Faith and obedience. The foundations of all other arguments.
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    The Orthodox Preterist versus the Heretical Dispensationalist

    He has always known who His faithful and obedient are. They aren't diluted.
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    The Orthodox Preterist versus the Heretical Dispensationalist

    He did no such thing. Tens of thousands of corpses of unfaithful disobedient Israelites testify to that. God is not a racist, notwithstanding the incessant efforts to contort Him into one.
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    The Orthodox Preterist versus the Heretical Dispensationalist

    You are aware that, from its birth and throughout its history, Israel was comprised of both descendants and non-descendants of Abraham (i.e. Jews and Gentiles, to use later nomenclature)? Genesis 17:12 And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every man child in your...
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    The Orthodox Preterist versus the Heretical Dispensationalist

    Before delving into this, we need to ensure the understanding of the identity of "all Israel". Two Israels. Romans 9 6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: 7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children...
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    The Orthodox Preterist versus the Heretical Dispensationalist

    Correct, they will not be fulfilled physically, but that's not my view. Those prophecies do not appear in the NT, and God tells us via the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, that they are fulfilled in Christ. God said that He would do better than that in Christ, and He has. Do you think that He...
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    The Orthodox Preterist versus the Heretical Dispensationalist

    Yes, totally agree. The problem with Marks is that he believes that God's choice was and is based on physical DNA, while I have continuously reemphasized that it was and is based on spiritual DNA, i.e. faith and obedience. Which means that I am excluding the unfaithful and disobedient...
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    The Orthodox Preterist versus the Heretical Dispensationalist

    Those of Israel who rejected Christ during His ministry on earth, and rejected the Gospel for 3 1/2 years after His ascension during its proclamation to Israel; were blinded. At the end of the 3 1/2 year period of the proclamation of the Gospel to Israel, the Gospel was opened to all, i.e. the...
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    The Orthodox Preterist versus the Heretical Dispensationalist

    Their physical fulfillments no longer appear in the New Covenant/Will/Testament, because they have been replaced therein by their spiritual fulfillments in Christ. 2 Corinthians 1:20
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    The Orthodox Preterist versus the Heretical Dispensationalist

    Not in the NT, which is the only Will and Testament in force and effect since Calvary. Their absence signifies their removal. In their place are the better promises of the better New Will and Testament, written at Calvary in the Blood of the Divine Testator, Jesus Christ.
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    The Orthodox Preterist versus the Heretical Dispensationalist

    If your uncle told you that he had bequeathed you $10,000 in his will, and later told you that he had updated his will and increased the bequest to $20,000, would you accuse your uncle of breaking his word because he changed his original bequest? :laughing: That absurdity describes precisely...
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    The Orthodox Preterist versus the Heretical Dispensationalist

    I believe that God's promises to me, and to all, including them, who were and are faithful and obedient to Him; are fulfilled in Christ. 2 Corinthians 1:20. You don't. 2 Corinthians 1 20 For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us. All the...
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    The Orthodox Preterist versus the Heretical Dispensationalist

    Of course. That's what I/we have been saying consistently. God preserves His faithful obedient remnant, restoring them to Himself through Christ. (Romans 9:6-8,27; Romans 11:1-5). That is not the physical nation, and it is not the unfaithful and disobedient.
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    The Orthodox Preterist versus the Heretical Dispensationalist

    There is not one promise in God's New Will and Testament, which is the only Will and Testament in force and effect since Calvary, that restores Israel to their "promised land". Not one. The Apostle Paul describes in sobering terms the eternal fate awaiting apostate antichrist Israel. You...
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    The Orthodox Preterist versus the Heretical Dispensationalist

    The numerous Scriptures that PinSeeker and I have cited confirm that there is not one promise for anyone, Jew e.g. Jacob's children, or Gentile, who is not in Christ. Conversely, all of the promises are exclusively for those who are in Christ, both Jew e.g. Jacob's children, and Gentile. They...
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    The Orthodox Preterist versus the Heretical Dispensationalist

    Certainly agree. God's True Chosen Israel has only ever been those who were faithful and obedient to Him. No others.
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    The Orthodox Preterist versus the Heretical Dispensationalist

    He killed those who apostasized into unfaithfulness and disobedience. He didn't kill those who remained faithful and obedient to Him. They were His True Chosen People. Spiritual Israel. Now since Calvary, in His New Will and Testament, His Church.