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Agree.

Apologies, I see it now. They of course are interpreting to their own theology and as I hope I have shown, there is not just one interpretation. I 'got it' last night in bed. Yes it's a good analogy and also how the early church understood it, that we go through a reception of the Word...

Sister. Thank you. God bless.

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Only if it is correctly understood - which it is not. It does not mean that a man can never sin again. It does not give a man the same attributes as God. It means that a man is able to not sin, but he can fall from that. I have been walking in that previously, about four times, once for 18...

@Johann I fully understand your position as it was the one I held onto for a lot of my 50 years as a believer after a profound conversion experience from atheism. I will present my case and how I interpret scripture but there is little chance in fact no chance of me reverting to my previous...

Paul, a minister of holiness, spoke a lot in his letters to those who were not yet in Christ though they were disciples.

Scripture: "Beloved, now we are children of God; and it has not yet been revealed what we shall be, but we know that when He is revealed, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is." Explanation: This passage suggests a future transformation into the likeness of Christ, aligning with...

Well first of all we see it in the disciples whom we are to use as examples, after they were called by Christ and followed Him, but went through many struggles trying to understand the things He was saying and falling into the sin of competition amongst themselves, culminating in denying Him at...

@Johann wrote: sanctification is both instantaneous and progressive. Apologies, my concentration was a little off yesterday. I agree but not in the way you mean, in the order that you quote. I agree that justification and sanctification take place together, but also glorification: Romans...

I am not saying that @Lizbeth herself is cherry picking Johann. I see a theme running through all of scripture which is not gradual sanctification. Yes agreed, spiritual illumination.

Hi Lizbeth, what I am having trouble getting past, is that Mary is the mother of Christ, not the bride. Will give it more thought. That is taking 'the day of Christ' to mean when He returns physically, whereas He had returned to the disciples after the Resurrection, breathing the Holy Spirit...

I don't get how Mary is a figure of the church when the church is the bride of Christ?? Must be missing something. There is a difference between purity and maturity. According to your view, the newly converted have a pure heart. What does that mean to you? Can anything impure come out of a pure...

I just found out why my health crashed a year ago, despite eating grass fed and finished organic meat and a very clean diet, since 40 years ago, ending up with NO grains NO dairy, NO eggs, NO high oxalate veggies, with a little nuts and seeds. It is Lyme Disease for which I treated myself 10...

I agree with you. Sorry I must have been unclear. I meant that those Jews who had genuine faith were under the sacrifice of Christ, the others depended on the sacrifice of animals.

You need to take more time to think about things instead of jumping in and making many errors, by not understanding the deeper spiritual things that you should by now have obtained. Thank you for the discourse which I believe I have been instructed to cease.

We are not capable of walking in the Spirit without the Blood applied to us. Oh ye of little faith in the real gospel.

You are not understanding how walking in the Spirit functions. I know that I could be fooled by Satan, something no doubt you think you will not fall for, and make an error of depending on the flesh because of that. I know that my God will not let me be fooled and will prevent me from falling...

Wrong. I do not keep myself saved - He keeps me - until I decide to break that bond by trusting again in the flesh which will lead to sin. You don't understand this concept because you are fleshy and this is spiritual.

I do not trust in myself to keep me saved. I trust in Christ who has promised the Holy Spirit will never desert me. However, I know that I could leave Him at any time (your theology is sure mixed up) and I know that I am not immune to the wiles of the devil. So I walk in moment by moment trust...