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  1. GodsGrace

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    Grace Great! Have copied and pasted to a file. Thanks for posting this! RHS
  2. GodsGrace

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    Easy Keithr There are two replies that will satisfy your question. 1. When Jesus was on earth,,,He was also a man. Thus THE FATHER IS GREATER THAN I is most certainly true. 2. There is a heirarchy in the Godhead/Trinity. God Father is the being from which the other two Persons are...
  3. GodsGrace

    Are You a Carnal Christian?

    Amigo.... of course a person should just read the bible and accept what it plainly says. But some don't do this and they change the meaning of a verse or they get obsessed with the meaning of a word, etc. I have read a little of the ECFs...they are the ones that were taught by the Apostles and...
  4. GodsGrace

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    Christ did not CLAIM equality with God... He IS GOD. How would YOU understand all the verses I posted in no. 336? Do we just dismiss them from the NT?
  5. GodsGrace

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    Are you a mormon? Do you think you're like God? Are YOU going to the cross? Try harder Hidden.... Let's look again: JESUS IS THE EXACT REPRESENTATION/IMAGE/COPY of God. YOU are not and you will NEVER be - not even in your glorified body.
  6. GodsGrace

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    Go back and read your posts to me. As to rejecting your words: Your words are rejected because they are not truth.
  7. GodsGrace

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    Apparently you missed my post no. 336. I gave you 9 verses straight out of the NT. Verses you apparently do not believe. You could try to twist them any which way you may think to... however, they state what they state. They state that JESUS IS GOD and He has always existed. The way to reply...
  8. GodsGrace

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    The above statement CLEARLY shows that you do not comprehend either the book of Hebrews or the meaning of words. And again,,,I'd keep away from the book of Hebrews if I were you.
  9. GodsGrace

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    Who has embraced the falsehood? The one who believes what the church has believed from the beginning... or the one who believes some new idea from the past 200 years? Again 1 Timothy 4:1 1 But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention...
  10. GodsGrace

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    They were only to settle disputes and clarify Christian teachings. They were NOT to create NEW doctrine. Nothing was overlooked. Jesus was both a MAN and GOD. The hypostatic union declared and confirmed that Jesus was 100% MAN and 100% GOD. Mirroring exactly what was written about Him in...
  11. GodsGrace

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    Here's what I understand Hidden.... YOU said God never sins. JESUS NEVER SINNED Because Jesus IS GOD. And anyone that uses Hebrews to attempt to prove that Jesus is not God...ù is a rather foolish person. Hebrews states that Jesus is THE EXACT IMAGE OF GOD. Hebrews 1:3 3 And He is the...
  12. GodsGrace

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    When you want to have a serious discussion, come back. For now I see no scripture but only personal attacks.
  13. GodsGrace

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    You were going EXTREMELY not well. Do you believe John? Let's take a look at what John states that should be SUFFICIENT to convince anyone EXCEPT those that do not wish to follow the Christian faith... John 1:1 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God...
  14. GodsGrace

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    So did Jesus sin or NOT?? Bad theology causes one to make statements that do not make sense. YOU said that God cannot sin. and In fact Jesus did NOT sin because HE IS GOD. You should do what the other member should do: LEARN why the church held councils. Ditto.
  15. GodsGrace

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    I gave you nine verses from the NT. To which you have no reply BTW. When do YOU believe the NT was written? Did you notice that it teaches that Jesus is God? No need to wait 100 years or 300 years. Also, you should learn WHY there were councils.... they were NOT to make up new theology but...
  16. GodsGrace

    Are You a Carnal Christian?

    No. The Holy Spirit works very well. But some bypass it. That would be these new ideas that have sprung up in the church that never exised from the very beginning. So here's what I do: I trust those that were taught by the Apostles. The Apostolic Fathers. They believed in baptism. They...
  17. GodsGrace

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    Jesus is THE SON. The Word. The Second Person of the Trinity Jesus is God. Perhaps you don't believe the NT.... Titus 2:9-10 9 Urge bondslaves to be subject to their own masters in everything, to be well-pleasing, not argumentative, 10 not pilfering, but showing all good faith so that they...
  18. GodsGrace

    It is what it shouldn't be

    Oh. Good ole' internet. So they CHEAT. Maybe the internet could cook for you too....
  19. GodsGrace

    Are You a Carnal Christian?

    Impossible to reply to the above since you've not replied to my post. No problem. You have an agenda and are presenting it. But it's not about what I was discussing.
  20. GodsGrace

    Are You a Carnal Christian?

    I have my solution. Have you discovered a solution?