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  1. GodsGrace

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    I don't know WHO trains you in it. You have much to learn. Good night.
  2. GodsGrace

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    No business of yours my good man. YOU are not Jesus. And you should worry about YOUR soul,,, not mine or anyone else's.
  3. GodsGrace

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    Oh. I see. Well, I don't know who wrote those words. It might be someone that USUALLY does not speak this way but has become frustrated from the insults that have been rampant on this thread by some. IF the member always speaks this way...I'd say that, no, it does not reflect what I wrote...
  4. GodsGrace

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    Perhaps you could be more precise with your wording because I don't know what you're asking.
  5. GodsGrace

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    I don't know what you're talking about. If you think I stated those words up above... you're sadly mistaken. You could apologize once you've checked out your source.
  6. GodsGrace

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    How many languages do YOU speak Auntie Jane? I speak three and know very well about the translation for OUR GREAT GOD AND SAVIOR. This is referring to ONE PERSON. Sorry your JW doctrine does not agree with what every other denomination teaches. I guess then,,,that the NT was written AFTER the...
  7. GodsGrace

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    Here's how you help people: By being understanding. By not belittling them. By replying with scripture instead of insults. By being NICE to persons. By treating them the way they treat you. By being Christlike: humble and loving. The greatest miracle of all if finding God and becoming a friend...
  8. GodsGrace

    Are You a Carnal Christian?

    And this will be the end of this conversation. I suppose history ended when John died. I suppose the Apostles forgot to go forth and teach all nations. I suppose the bible is sufficient - not for salvation (which it is) but for knowing EXACTLY what Jesus wants from us and the Apostles. I...
  9. GodsGrace

    It is what it shouldn't be

    OK Gotcha. Why continue with this conversation? No reason to.
  10. GodsGrace

    Is Jesus the Saviour of the whole World?

    No Beebser....what I stated is what you posted. Let's try again.... You said that God Father is God. You said that the Son is God. BUT You do NOT believe in the Trinity/Godhead. So.... Pay attention: You have just created two Gods. If God is a family...please explain HOW. How can God be a...
  11. GodsGrace

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    THIS is what you stated: "It may be the mere presence of a higher meaning which offends those who prefer the base" This statement of yours implies that you are capable of understanding the higher meaning while WE, the offended ones according to you, prefer the base. I find it entertaining...
  12. GodsGrace

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    Couldn't agree more. And you've been doing this throughout. Funny how we see the splinter in the other's eye... but not the log in our own. Yes XtraPercet.... you're so much more intelligent that we po' folk. But that's not an insult either.... Maybe, eventually, you could let some of your...
  13. GodsGrace

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    Right...But they'd be wrong, of course since God is outside time. He cannot be part of what He created. Agreed. Eternity is timeless .... without time.
  14. GodsGrace

    Is Jesus the Saviour of the whole World?

    Here's what you said: "I am not JW and I do not believe in a trinity. I do believe Jesus Christ is God (not God the Father, but certainly our Father) and I believe he is Yahweh." You said you do NOT believe in the Trinity. Then You said that you believe Jesus is God. This means that there are...
  15. GodsGrace

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    What makes you think the other member is upset? Or confused...or any of the other adjectives you also used on me. The other member is not upset...he's al cool as can be. We just do not agree with you XtraPercept.
  16. GodsGrace

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    Agreed. And, in fact, God does not change because He is timeless. Do you understand eternity and timelessness to be the same? I'd say yes. With eternity,,,time disappears - there is no "time". Right...but I don't believe I can understand this as well as you do.
  17. GodsGrace

    Is Jesus the Saviour of the whole World?

    You do not believe in the Trinity. But you believe Jesus is God but not the Father. Exactly what the Trinity teaches. So, if you don't believe in the Trinity... but you believe Jesus is God.... Are you aware that you've just stated that there are two Gods? And yet there is only one God.
  18. GodsGrace

    WHAT????? CHURCH FATHERS WERE PRETRIB ???

    HOW rebuilder? Where in the NT does it state that believers will be caught up with Jesus? Where does it state that Jesus comes back two times and not one time? (at the end of the world).
  19. GodsGrace

    WHAT????? CHURCH FATHERS WERE PRETRIB ???

    @rebuilder 454 Here is my two cents... but it'll be copied and pasted.... sorry 'bout that. It does represent what I believe the Apostolic Fathers believed... From Gemini: Apostolic Fathers (c. 95–150 AD) and Ante-Nicene Fathers generally did not teach a pretribulation rapture, holding...
  20. GodsGrace

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    Interesting 3rd paragraph. Trying to understand it but it might be a personal revelation. In which case,,,not everyone will understand it.