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  1. GodsGrace

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    saved.... It is NOT NECESSARY to hear from the pulpit that Jesus is God. All Christians KNOW that Jesus is God. It is PRESUPPOSED. WE do NOT need to hear it every time a preacher/teacher opens their mouth. WE only speak about this because it is brought up by those such as yourself that insist...
  2. GodsGrace

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    I'LL TRY AGAIN: JESUS WAS ALWAYS BELIEVED TO BE DIVINE. HERETICS DID NOT BELIEVE THIS AND SO THUS THE COUNCIL OF NICEA IN 325AD BECAME NECESSARY TO MAKE A STATEMENT ABOUT THIS. THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE BELIEF THAT JESUS WAS GOD BEGAIN IN 325AD. IT JUST CONFIRMED IT.
  3. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Here's the problem: I believe OSAS is heretical. YOU believe it's scriptural. THUS SOLA SCRIPTURA does not function.
  4. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Behold,,,there was a CHURCH even in the time immediately following Jesus. If you remember they were HOUSE churches and they all taught the same.
  5. GodsGrace

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    For someone that does not reply to posts,,,,that is some statement. Let's try again: THE TRINITY IS FOUND IN BOTH THE OLD TESTAMENT AND THE NEW TESTAMENT. And I've shown HOW with scripture.
  6. GodsGrace

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    The above is for @Davy. The problem here is that you do not understand the words of Jesus or you understand them but do not accept them. And I've also noted that you do not respond to posts to you but only make comments. This is because your theology does not work and is not in line with the...
  7. GodsGrace

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    False. The TRINITY was ALWAYS in the bible. Both the OT and the NT. You don't see Jesus in the OT? You don't see God being the FIRST AND THE LAST in the OT? Do you see Jesus being called the ALPHA AND THE OMEGA in Revelation? Isaiah 44:6 6 "Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel and his...
  8. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    So, Behold, please explain if SOLA SCRIPTURA works well.... WHY do we not agree on OSAS??
  9. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Agreed. Jesus instructed the Apostles...not all His disciples. Matthew 28:19 And they all taught the same. From Jesus to Paul. You mean 1 Timothy 3:15 Yes. The church is the bastion of truth. Any yet many Christians on these very Forums will state that they do not believe in Creeds...the...
  10. GodsGrace

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    @saved by grace 101 part 3 of 3 Tertullian (AD 150-225) was an early Christian apologist. He said, Hippolytus of Rome (AD 170-235) was a third-century theologian. He was a disciple of Irenaeus, who was a disciple of Polycarp, who was a disciple of John. He writes, There's much more....
  11. GodsGrace

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    @saved by grace 101 part 2 of 3 Irenaeus of Lyons (AD 130-202) was bishop of Lugdunum in Gaul, which is now Lyons, France. Irenaeus was born in Smyrna in Asia Minor, where he studied under bishop Polycarp, who in turn had been a disciple of John the Apostle. Clement of Alexandria (AD...
  12. GodsGrace

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    You sure are obsessed with hell. The TRINITY is part of both the OT and the NT. Those that DID NOT believe that Jesus was God were HERETICS and GNOSTICS. Why don't you read those that were taught BY THE APOSTLES and learn for yourself what the Apostles taught them? Here are some of their...
  13. GodsGrace

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    The burning bush. You want to say that THE ANGEL was speaking for God? OK,,let's go with that. The angel said to tell the Israelites that I AM is sending the message. IOW ..... GOD is sending the message. You DID say that the God was speaking THROUGH the angel. So I AM is referring to GOD...
  14. GodsGrace

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    You know Lizbeth...I used to actually debate with this idea years ago.... I'm just feeling, lately, like it should NOT be necessary! Think of it.... Two Christians debating whether or not Jesus is God. ONE of them is NOT a Chrsitian!
  15. GodsGrace

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    LOL
  16. GodsGrace

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    I have to say Amigo...that we can debate some nuance or other. But when we debate BIG issues that have been in the church from THE BEGINNING of Christianity... then, yes, there's something very wrong and we are to stand up to such wrong teachings of this modern world. It's just that I'm getting...
  17. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Rightglory,,, There is a problem. I know about Catholic theology. It's great and most of Christian theology is based on it - even though some would not only disagree with this but demand that it not be so. unfortunately, the early church was there and is here. (unfortunately for the...
  18. GodsGrace

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    Yes sir. If the WORD is A god..... it means there are many gods. From my understanding there is ONLY ONE God. And the WORD was part of that ONE GOD from the beginning...from eternity. The WORD was NOT created. But was only MADE FLESH. What more do we need than: John 1:1 John 1:14
  19. GodsGrace

    Is Jesus the Saviour of the whole World?

    Hey E The video looks good and I did watch some of it but too long for me...will do if time permits. Is this too simple for ya? How to become saved: 1. Believe in God. 2. Obey Him. Universalism states that EVERYONE is going to heaven. This cannot be right. Exclusivism attempts to determine...
  20. GodsGrace

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    Davy, Isn't it sad that we have to debate the divinity of Jesus with other "Christians"? What exactly, I wonder, do they believe makes them BE A CHRISTIAN? Maybe the fact that Jesus was a good person? Who knows. THIS is what I know. Jesus is spoken of as God throughout the NT and this begins...