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  1. Grailhunter

    So Joseph married Mary but didn’t have sex?

    I read the scriptures and the prophetess was Isaiah's wife and he had sex with her and she had a baby. No surprise. Whatever her condition was she had sex with her husband and she had a baby. Nothing to be called a prophecy. The only thing the storyline has a connection with Yeshua is that their...
  2. Grailhunter

    So Joseph married Mary but didn’t have sex?

    That is right. The scriptures are not going to say "Yahweh impregnated Miriam without having sex" Because He did have sex with Miriam. And it does not use words like miraculously Impregnated or miraculously manifested or that He had Scotty beam Yeshua aboard Miriam. What it does say are words...
  3. Grailhunter

    So Joseph married Mary but didn’t have sex?

    Again and again and again and again, the scriptures are not going to go into sexual details. Yahweh produced a Son if it was not from His seed then Yeshua is not the Son of God. No scripture suggests that He was a created being. Yeshua calls Yahweh His Father over 50 times, not His creator. You...
  4. Grailhunter

    So Joseph married Mary but didn’t have sex?

    Everything in the story line proves sexual reproduction. Again and again and again... The fact that it uses words like begotten, conceived ….impregnate….delivery of a baby that is defined as the Son of Yahweh, nails it. Don't make me repeat the obvious. And Matthew does not deny sexual conception.
  5. Grailhunter

    So Joseph married Mary but didn’t have sex?

    Don't expect for the scriptures to get into vivid detail on the sexual act. The fact that Yeshua is the Son of Yahweh pretty much tells it all. The fact that it uses words like begotten, conceived ….impregnate….delivery of a baby that is defined as the Son of Yahweh, nails it. Don't make me...
  6. Grailhunter

    So Joseph married Mary but didn’t have sex?

    The supporting scriptures do not indicate that Miriam became a mass murderer...... So we might want to consider the norm by Law and tradition that Miriam was a wife to Joseph to the fullest extent after Yeshua was born which would mean she probably had children.
  7. Grailhunter

    So Joseph married Mary but didn’t have sex?

    Post 215 Again and again.....the best proof is what the word means and then the context it was used and the results.
  8. Grailhunter

    So Joseph married Mary but didn’t have sex?

    No Luke 1:35 proves they were both involved. And scripture does not describe Yeshua as the Son of the Holy Spirit.
  9. Grailhunter

    So Joseph married Mary but didn’t have sex?

    I proved what the word means and in this case in the context of what happened. When looking for biblical proof that is the very best. So again..... Monogenes (μονογενής) has two primary definitions, "pertaining to being the only one of its kind within a specific relationship" and "pertaining to...
  10. Grailhunter

    So Joseph married Mary but didn’t have sex?

    LOL One of the reasons that there are 30,000 denominations is that they were started by people that were uneducated on the scriptures, the languages, the culture, and the history. The Bible calls it the blind leading the blind.
  11. Grailhunter

    So Joseph married Mary but didn’t have sex?

    Right....sort of. You are quoting the wrong scriptures....During Christ's ministry they were still in the Old Covenant. Mosaic Law......accordingly by Mosaic Law Miriam was owned and did not have a choice as to have sex or not. For her to refuse would be a sin. Certainly no reason to assume...
  12. Grailhunter

    So Joseph married Mary but didn’t have sex?

    Nope.....a life of formal education.
  13. Grailhunter

    So Joseph married Mary but didn’t have sex?

    No contest on Joseph holding off making love to Miriam until after Yeshua was born.
  14. Grailhunter

    So Joseph married Mary but didn’t have sex?

    3 Then I made love to the prophetess, and she conceived and gave birth to a son. And the Lord said to me, “Name him Maher-Shalal-Hash-Baz Isaiah 8:3 NIV 3 So I approached the prophetess, and she conceived and gave birth to a son. Then the Lord said to me, “Name him Maher-shalal-hash-baz...
  15. Grailhunter

    So Joseph married Mary but didn’t have sex?

    What could they do? tell them that there is no prophecies that fit! But definitely cherry picking. Nothing in the story about a Messiah or a Messiah that is crucified. Nothing about saving their souls.
  16. Grailhunter

    So Joseph married Mary but didn’t have sex?

    You need to look a little deeper into the Greek... Monogenes (μονογενής) has two primary definitions, "pertaining to being the only one of its kind within a specific relationship" and "pertaining to being the only one of its kind or class, unique in kind".[1] Its Greek meaning is often applied...
  17. Grailhunter

    So Joseph married Mary but didn’t have sex?

    Yes they both can be true.......The angel answered and said to her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; and for that reason the holy Child shall be called the Son of God. Luke 1:35
  18. Grailhunter

    So Joseph married Mary but didn’t have sex?

    Of course what was conceived in her was of the Holy Spirit......as in regard to Yahweh's only begotten Son, Begotten mean sexual reproduction. And you seem like a knowledgeable person so read Isaiah chapter 7 and tell me if that is a story about testing the faith of a king or a Son that will be...
  19. Grailhunter

    So Joseph married Mary but didn’t have sex?

    Yea the scriptures does not imply in any way a virgin birth.
  20. Grailhunter

    So Joseph married Mary but didn’t have sex?

    You will get your turn, I do it all the time.