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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    He doesn't think about how the ridiculous logic he uses to deny that Acts 1:11 refers to the same coming of Christ as Revelation 19:11-21 means that, to be consistent, he can't relate Revelation 19:11-21 to any other verse or passage in scripture. It's just ludicrous reasoning that can't be...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    So, after the supposed pre-trib rapture occurs, where do you think Jesus and His people go after that? You do understand that most pre-tribs believe they go to heaven (the third heaven) after that, don't you? So, no need to get upset just because I didn't realize that you don't believe what a...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    That's not what he said, either. Why are you resorting to misrepresenting what he said? It must be because you have no idea how to address what he actually said.
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    You have no understanding of what those you debate against believe. It's ridiculous. Post-tribs do not compare the trib with the flood of Noah's day. Many post-tribs, including me, compare the wrath and destruction that will occur when Jesus returns with the flood and we equate the trib with a...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    What Jesus was saying is that unbelievers will be totally clueless about the wrath that will come upon them when Jesus returns just like people were when the flood destroyed them in Noah's day. How can you think He was talking about a pre-trib rapture there rather than His post-trib return...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    Too many. And you still won't accept the truth that you've been shown many times. Sad.
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    No, your mind is closed because you clearly are not willing to even consider anything but what you've probably been taught your whole life. LOL! That's the question I should be asking you. You seem to have no understanding of it at all. Do you think it's no different than reading a...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    You think God's word containing symbolism would be lying? Goodness sakes. Do you not acknowledge any symbolism in the Bible? How am I undermining God's word by seeing that it contains some symbolism? Are you for real?
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    You imply that Jesus will come down from heaven 2 more times in the future with your pre-trib rapture belief. Hello? You believe He will descend from heaven for the pre-trib rapture, right? And then turn around and bring the church with Him back to heaven, right? So, there's one time you...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    When it comes to end times doctrine, yes. You don't seem to understand anything at all when it comes to end times doctrine. There are many reasons, but your mind is closed to what scripture actually teaches about this. LOL. You don't seem to understand people at all. Even during World Wars 1...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    What I get is that you don't have a clue. That much is very clear to me. I don't just suggest that. It's obvious. It's absolutely ludicrous to take that literally. To be consistent you should believe that He will literally slay people with a literal sword coming out of His mouth as well since...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    Only one rapture of all the saints, and only one second coming of Christ

    The pre-trib rapture theory is just nothing but a collection of random thoughts that come from people's imaginations. They try to relate unrelated scriptures to fit with what they have imagined. They use their active imaginations to dream up scenarios that are nowhere taught in scripture. It's...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Only one rapture of all the saints, and only one second coming of Christ

    Yet, it is. And, as usual, you did nothing convincing to back up your claim. Where does Revelation 14:14 mention that? Nowhere. You're making things up. Why? You just make claims and do literally nothing to back them up. Where does Revelation 14:14-16 say anything about this? Where is that...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Only one rapture of all the saints, and only one second coming of Christ

    And where do you find that in scripture? At the last trumpet Paul said we (the church) will all be changed and will put on bodily immortality (1 Cor 15:51-54). You believe mortal life will go on in the world for 7 years after than and then another 1000+ years after that. So, at which trumpet...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    He's doing a great job, but you are very lacking in discernment, so you can't see it. Ask God for wisdom (James 1:5-7). Because He taught a post-trib rapture, not a pre-trib rapture. Yet, here you are still believing in a pre-trib rapture. Explain what you're talking about here. I haven't read...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    It's not talking about literally riding white horses. Good grief. Why do you take symbolism literally? Do you think Jesus will literally slay people with a literal sword coming out of His mouth at that time, too? I already showed you. Revelation 19:7 talks about the wife making herself ready...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Do you think the word "thousand" is supposed to be taken literally in the following verses... Psalm 50:10 For every beast of the forest is Mine, And the cattle on a thousand hills. Deuteronomy 7:9 “Therefore know that the Lord your God, He is God, the faithful God who keeps covenant and mercy...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    He is refuting a pre-trib rapture and not pointing towards it in any way, shape or form. Why are you making things up? Do you not believe Jesus when He said that He will come "immediately after the tribulation of those days" (Matthew 24:29-31)? He compared what will happen on the day He returns...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    Pretrib fallacies

    There was no point at all to the question. Don't try to tell me what to do. I'm not on a high horse just because I'm pointing out that someone is playing games. He clearly is. He doesn't want to have an adult discussion, so he just keeps asking pointless questions.
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    Pretrib fallacies

    Right. And what is mentioned in the book of Revelation in the Bible chapters 4 through 19 reveals what we call the church. Exactly. So, tell me who else but those in the church are called saints and have the testimony of Jesus and obey and follow Him? LOL! You are completely missing the point...