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But you aren't taking all levels into account though...you are denying the foundational things, which we have both received, as well as that we are to apprehend and manifest them. Grow up INTO the Head. Grow up INTO all that we have received by grace. INCREASE in the measure of grace and...

For what it's worth, I don't entirely disagree with everything you are saying on this subject. Just that I am not seeing this has to be an either/or case of pitting one truth against another. The carnal mind sees a contradiction here, but the mind of Christ doesn't. We need to acknowledge the...

The bible says the body of Christ edifies ITSELF in love. Not just one member/gift but all of them. That scripture says "When you come together EVERY ONE OF YOU HATH" something to contribute by the gift and Spirit that is in them, as the Spirit leads and unctions each one. (In an ideal...

Amen! Anyone please correct me if this is wrong but I believe walking in the spirit is to be walking in much the same 'zone' of prayerfulness we get into when we pray, being in the presence of God. (I believe that is also how we should read the bible, prayerfully, so that the Lord can speak to...

I like that word symmorphizo there. If, I'm not mistaken it seems to leave room for both what has been accomplished in us as well as what is happening along the way.

I couldn't link to Epi's post from my in-box to be able to quote it and couldn't find it on the thread when I went looking for it, so that is why I ended up copying/pasting it. I guess you were thinking that his post that I put in brackets marks were my comments..?

It's not rocket science, it's quite simple. What does it mean to perish? What does the bible say about it? And who are perishing in their sins as we speak? As opposed to those who are not perishing because they have eternal life. Those who don't know Christ are still dead in their sins and...

I often can’t keep up with threads any more, they are just too fast moving and I’m even a slower thinker than I used to be.….sometimes think I should retire from forums, but just want to drop this off. A couple of days ago, when I sat down to read my bible, I happened to open it here and began...

Please let me know what needs clarifying......was it what Zipporah said? That is in the bible....Moses told her to circumcise their son and that was her reply. Having our hearts circumcised is a painful and 'bloody' operation that costs us our flesh life. Jesus didn't promise us a rose...

Thinking about how the life of a believer is sometimes hard to explain....from the world's point of view we look like sheep being slaughtered. Not so nice. The things we go through in this life in order to be broken.....the Lord takes away the things we used to rely on in order that His...

@Episkopos I'm copying/pasting your post here from my e-mail in-box because it won't link me to your post. {{Consigning all non-fundamentalists to hell is what extremists like the Taliban do. To them everybody is too liberal. They are SO far to the right than anyone with any decency is seen as...

I think anyone who has not the Spirit will not inherit eternal life, regardless of who they are - because that is what God's word teaches. I just believe what the bible says. Paul wrote that who has not the Spirit does not belong to Christ. And that we are to have no fellowship with them but...

Well, I am certainly anti-anything that is false and leads people to perdition......but I hate no-one. I do not hate Catholic people and I do not hate Jewish people...I do not hate any people. And I'm sure nobody else here does either...nothing in their posts even suggests it. But it's...

Oh interesting, thanks....I'll have to try and look into that. I'm not very good with all that up to now.

Maybe has other meanings but for one thing it's a living parable for Jesus coming for His bride Israel and after labouring and ministering in order to obtain her, He ended up with a Gentile bride (Leah) instead (for the most part).....so then He has to labour for another cycle of time (through...

Amen. Though I understand that people may be worried that more 'deserving' folks (not that anyone is truly deserving) are going to be sent to hell because they didn't get to hear the gospel message or whatever the circumstance happens to be. But I don't believe we need to worry about...

Not from what I can see. :rolleyes:

Ah oui, merci....ma grammaire est affreux!

Thought you said you gave up your blankey.

Actually truth be told, Episkopos is French-Canadian....lives in la belle province de Quebec. :)