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The development of doctrine within the Catholic Church can be likened to what children know as Chinese whispers. What we have today emanating from Rome is so far removed from the original intent of the inspired word of God as to be barely recognizable, if recognisable at all. Yet this didn't...

@Zachariah Whose picture is printed on your money? Give back to that person what belongs to him.

Babylon the Great in Revelation is not a geographical term, but a spiritual term. Babylon ceases to exist as a physical entity 2500 years ago, and good promised it would never be rebuilt. But the spiritual values, doctrines, and false concepts that comprised ancient Babylon still exist today...

It is very easy to form an opinion you have already preconceived by listening only to those that agree with you. There are so many holes in your preconceptions and presumptions it's difficult to know where to begin. All I can suggest is you begin to research whether your judgements are valid...

Hence my thread focusing on quotes from Ellen White. She utterly rejected any suggestion that anyone look to her or her husband for answers to doctrinal issues. She never laid out a doctrine for the church anywhere that wasn't previously studied, discussed, prayed about, and appealed to the holy...

You presume? And therein lies your problem. As to the the eighth day hypothesis, the example given in your quote wherein there were 8 days to be observed, hold absolutely no connection whatsoever to the 7th day Sabbath in particular, nor the 7 day week in general. Both were examples of 8 days...

Quite true that Jesus was not a priest after the order of Levi. Please explain how that should concern Seventh Day Adventists who recognize Jesus as their High Priest after the order of Melchizedek?

So your appeal is to tradition. That's fine as far as it goes. Tradition is great, so long as the tradition doesn't negate, counter, or contradict the word of God. You know I am sure what Jesus had to say to those who need their false teachings on traditions that countered the declared word of...

Nice summary Hobie. Yes, in fact the pre-advent judgement appears 4 times in Daniel. The angels, to are intimately and physically involved in the gathering of the elect from the 4 corners of the earth, must know beforehand who the elect actually are, and who are the weeds. It's harvest time, and...

Wrong. God has made the Sabbath a wedge through which He desires to bless you. The Sabbath, as He established it by ceasing from His work, made the Sabbath to be a gift to mankind, a time in which man may stop/cease from his work for 24 hours and commune with his Creator. It's a gift. The vast...

I think Jesus alluded to that time... KJV Luke 21:25-26 25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; 26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things...

Good question. I don't rightly know the details, who does? But I suspect fear. A great global disaster, or a series of them, bringing fear and perplexity to all.

The biblical record, written by eye witnesses to the events unfolding around them, is the foundation of faith and practise. While your claim that Sunday was an historical fact of Christian faith and practise since the time of the apostles, is simply not borne out by scripture. There is no...

But even Revelation 13 tells us that the beast, Antichrist, has 2 phases. The first for 1260 years, at the end of which, (1798) he received a mortal head wound. The French invasion of Rome and the taking of the Pope captive, the declaring of the Rome as a Republic, and the disbanding of the...

Battling? So your opinion of history... is a hill you are willing to die on at the expense of biblical truth?

Yes, there's the trap so many fall into, including myself in the past, of explaining where we came from with such zeal and fervor, it came across like a longing for the good old days, like blissful reminiscing, with Jesus entering into the picture as a late after thought, like a reluctant...

Sinners are inherently selfish. They have no heart for unselfish service to others, praise and worship to God, nor any inclination to righteousness. Those values are few and far between here on earth, and easily avoidable and ignored. Heaven however will welcome nothing else. Heaven to such...

Nice to get stuff off the chest huh. What I was agreeing with was what you said, in effect, that in the final analysis, quote...It will prove to be either a correct interpretation of God's will as expressed in His Word or an error. And yes. Even secular elites can figure out where humanity is...

This is true, however, there are several basic scriptural indications in favor of the Adventist position. 1. Whoever received the mark of the beast, voluntarily submits to the authority of the beast. 2. A correct identification of the beast will bring light as to the nature of the beast's...

That meme is mint bro