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2Co 5:19-21 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye...

Still trying to 'percolate' here, but I think I might in the middle on some of these things. There is an aspect of covering that the bible talks about, but we are not to abuse it, since we are not to use our liberty as a "cloak for sin". I believe the reformation was a healthy step in the...

ok sis, this is where I'm having trouble getting my head around things, and my aging brain is not helping matters, Lord help me. ;) I might not be able to delve into this too much. We've been made the righteousness of Christ.....to my understanding that is what has been imputed to us. Even...

Ah, I think this is where some of the confusion is coming from, if I'm not mistaken. I think everyone isn't on the same page as to the definition of imputation. Maybe that does need to be ironed out then, the meaning of imputation and whether the Lord can impute something to us that is not...

I'm not sure and am mentioning it just in case, but is it possible that different people here have different understandings of what imputed means? If so, it might be helpful to define what that word means.

I haven't heard anyone here going around making that claim either, brother, unless I missed it since I don't get around very much. Paul didn't make that claim because, as he wrote in that same scripture, he is not his own judge, God is. (I don't know but maybe you're misunderstanding some of...

I think I know what you mean and am so grateful for what the Lord pours through His people. I need all the help I can get. ;) God's word is a precious light unto our path and I find He is so faithful and timely with those He sends.

Enjoying this discussion. Still trying to get my head around some things, but there are paradoxes in the things of God for sure. Like where it says all things have been put under the feet of Jesus, but we do not yet see everything put under His feet. And "there remains therefore a rest for...

I don't know if I'm understanding you very well, I'm sorry, but just going by the parables and analogies in the bible and thinking in terms of being like children growing to maturity...it's hard to pinpoint at exactly what point a child has become an adult (and even adults still keep learning...

I think of "perfectionISM' as being of the flesh. People who are never satisfied with themselves and always trying to be perfect....it comes from either a sense of inferiority or pride or maybe both. But the desire for perfect-ness that the Lord is after and which we are aiming for, I believe...

I don't know the details of your specific situation, but I believe there comes a time when we each begin to realize that "in me dwells no good thing". Our righteousness needs to come from the Lord, His Spirit, as we seek Him for it, because we start to realize our lack, that we have it not of...

I think perfection is the plumbline of what we all should be aiming for....not beating the air aimlessly but running the race so as to win it. Like Abraham believing that God is able to do what He promised. But the thing is it's accomplished through our weakness, not by the strength of our...

Not sure we should think in terms of hoops, but only try to stick with what the scriptures say. If there are any hoops involved, maybe we could say repenting of his sin was the hoop he needed to jump through by the grace of God. If he had never repented and stopped his sinning and died in his...

Well here's what the scripture does say on this matter: 1Co 5:1-6 It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife. And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he...

Amen. I haven't heard anyone declaring themselves sinless. We can be putting words in people's mouths that they are not saying, when we misunderstand what they are trying to get across. (Happened to Jesus too.) I believe it is possible to put our flesh and carnal nature under our feet - to...

amigo de christo said: The next time one of yalls popes or leaders desire titles like MOST HOLY FATHER or most HOLY REVERAND try telling them what JESUS said instead of heeding them and kissing their rings . EVEN PETER rebuked cornelious for kneeling before HIM . BUT the CC has had popes...

Amen brother. It's plain as day in the bible but amazing how blind one can be to what is plainly written sadly! Shows us that it's a spiritual war and wrestling not with flesh & blood but with powers and principalities. Only Jesus can open blind eyes, of those who are willing to come to Him.

How you understand that verse will depend on what you understand the church to be. The true church is a spiritual entity, ie, heavenly, not earthly. True believers are "born in Zion"....ie, heavenly Jerusalem which is the true church so to speak in spirit, founded on Christ the cornerstone and...

Things have always been messy in the church to some degree. Look in the epistles to see how hard Paul had to work all the time dealing with problems in the church. It's not God's fault, but its because He is always dealing with us messy, fallible human beings. God's word does not at any time...