Search results

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

  1. W

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    There is nobody left to enter to your imaginary seven year tribulation. It is just went up in a puff of smoke. Read the text!
  2. W

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Op Note Pretribbers have had ample time to present their arguments and refute the Op. But, so far, no Pretrib has actually directly addressed or rebutted the Op. There is a lot of ducking the obvious. Text after text remains unchallenged and unwavering. The response has been pretty typical for...
  3. W

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Yea right! LOL. Following Doug's faulty charts is on a par with Scripture or more important. This is ridiculous. This is how ludicrous Pretrib is. It is fanciful. All that awaits is the white flag. You have no Scripture to support your error. Why not admit it? Your doctrine is in pieces.
  4. W

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    What? 24 elders are not billions of Christians. Where are you getting that from? It seems like you stretching that to support your teaching. There is no mention of "the Church." Let me remind you: it is your school of thought that argues that the absence of any mention of "the Church" between...
  5. W

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I used to. At the start, a few years ago, I did. I realized your charts were slanted, repetitive and unbiblical. I have ignored them for a long time. I know many others do. They see it as a smokescreen you hide behind when you are cornered and have no Scripture.
  6. W

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    LOL. Yea right! The Bible demands we all produce silly end-time charts to prove an argument. Google it and you will see plenty that outline the truth and many that teach Amil. I am not interested! I do not read your charts. Quote the Scripture that teaches this. If you were honest, you would...
  7. W

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    More avoidance. Address all the detailed rebuttals above that refute your beliefs. You have nothing of biblical substance to bring to the table. Show us any Scripture that teaches a rapture of the Church, followed by a tribulation period of any length, followed by a third coming of the Lord?
  8. W

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    You cannot discuss Scripture. Your doctrine cannot abide biblical scrutiny. When brought into the light it falls like a deck of cards. You have to hide behind your flawed charts every time you are cornered. That is all you have.
  9. W

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    LOL. Who cares? That is all you have - that, and continual avoidance and fighting the sacred text. That is why you need your charts. The content of your questionable charts contradict God's Book. All I am bringing to the table is the Word of God. That is normally enough for genuine Christians.
  10. W

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Most of us are partial preterist and partial futurist in some way, if we were honest. Maybe not you.
  11. W

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Read what I have previously presented and which Pretribbers have repeatedly ignored. Read Scripture. Read history. Check out AD70. This has already been long-fulfilled. Please address the biblical evidence. Jesus, first of all, speaks about the destruction of the temple in AD70, as a result...
  12. W

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Premils habitually spiritualize what is literal and literalize what is spiritual.
  13. W

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Why do you think Jesus actually destroyed the old covenant temple? Why do you think the curtain was cut in two? It was rendered redundant through the arrival of Christ – the eternal temple, and man's only redeemer. What is more, there is no more requirement for animal sacrifices. They were...
  14. W

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Revelation 3:12: “Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new...
  15. W

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    In case you missed it, the Old Testament temple has been destroyed along time ago, as Jesus predicted. It is redundant. It has been replaced by the New Testament temple. This will never be undone. There will be no rival to Christ and His people. That is where the presence of God and the favor...
  16. W

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    This is talking about AD70. This is nothing to do with your imaginary future paradigm. I have addressed this several times and you have carefully ducked around it. You have to! Do you even know how biblical interpretation effectively happens? You interpret Scripture which Scripture! Look at the...
  17. W

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    What about the actual "day of the Lord" passages? Why do you avoid them? Why do you dismiss what they teach? You have to in order to fit your error. You prefer your questionable charts and unrelated passages. Look at what happens when the state arrives. It is total destruction. It is the end of...
  18. W

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    There is absolutely no "day of the Lord" passage the teaches that. You just rabbit the error that you have been taught without even checking the Word of God to see if it is true. You've bought into a lie. Where is "the day of the Lord" mentioned in 2 Thessalonians 2:4? Nowhere! You force it...
  19. W

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    There is no tribulation mentioned before the one and only coming of Jesus Christ. You (or no Pretrib) has been able to show that. That is because it does not exist. It is in your imagination.
  20. W

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Can you please read what I wrote before making these such claims? I already showed you. They escape the approaching wholesale destruction of the corrupted created order that accompanies Christ return - namely “Heaven and earth shall pass away.” God's people will be rescued before the total...