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You lost me. What 3 sentences are you looking at and what do each confirm? Also, I still don’t understand the ‘not necessary but only sufficient’ dichotomy. Please explain the 4 possible condition scenarios: Necessary and sufficient Not necessary and not sufficient Not necessary but sufficient...

That’s were understanding it is a forgery comes in. As a child, I found this verse so peculiar, out of context, at the end before the ascension , this is snuck in. Why didn’t Jesus explain this over the years he walked with the Apostles? Odd to leave it to us to read into. Sneaking it in at...

Here again the ugly over-spiritualization of Christianity shows itself, abandoning the soulful needs of people. The purpose of business is to make money, profit. On this, we are all of the same religion. The purpose of government is security. Thus, business economics and government are...

Tried to. Why would t you do it again?

Every organization is only as good as its constituents. Given a fallen world, filled with corrupt governments, we must function. Due to the veto power as a member of the Security Council, our enemies cannot advance action against us. Despite its many flaws, the UN’s collective sanctioning...

No comment on my summary of the French and Indian Wars?

Lie upon lie is the trinity. They have to take things out of context. Jesus was not a trinitarian. I’ve asked this question many times but trinitarians just ignore it. Jesus did not teach the trinity. Why do Jesus followers teach what Jesus did not?

And Jesus is the chosen servant of God! The language is not adopted but it means the same thing. We get the same inheritance Jesus does! This proves he is not more of a son than we are. Scripture says he is the firstborn of the New Creation. He can’t be the first born AND be fundamentally...

One of my earliest objections to trinitarianism was the proclamation that not believing it means you can’t be saved and are damned to hell. The golden question sets this IDOLATRY straight; what verse says that? Given that is false, why do trinitarians make it seem like their manmade doctrine...

True but even as it is, it is not the trinity verse they try to make it out to be. It says nothing of the nature of God OR that believing the trinity is required for salvation.

Why are you only looking at this verse? As a lawyer, you know if a contract has one condition, that is determinant; no parsing between sufficient amor necessary. You don’t just look at a single sentence. That’s why I asked about the trinitarian counterpoint, which you admit is non-existent...

It doesn’t have to say only X. The fact that other conditions are absent from the text tells the story. Boy, the sophistry to NOT reject the trinity is something to behold! Invent a specific formulation of words designed to defeat the obvious, explicit and repeatedly given truth from God’s words.

I don’t understand how you are parsing sufficient with necessary? At first, it seems like sophistry, an artificial dichotomy, to side step THE condition of salvation.

You keep implying there is some kind of equal ambiguity on both sides. 1st, that’s not true. 2nd, you know the burden is on the one making the positive claim, I.e., both sides do not have equal burden to make its case. See post #787. What is the trinitarian counterpoint to Romans 10:9, such as...

I gave the link for you to re-familiarize yourself with it. You could read it. LOL. Because I’m not sure what your ‘we’ orientation is, let me summarize. Colonial powers of Europe were ascendant during this era. Starting with Spain, led by Columbus and the Conquistadors, mainly in south and...

I think @marks was suggesting some kind of similar reconciliation process is needed for Scripture focus individually. Most of us recognize apparent contradictions in Scripture. Normally, these are mostly resolved by context and translation choices. It takes deep dives into the culture of the...

To say some Scripture is equivocal on the subject of the trinity does not mean: There is any unequivocal Scripture in support of the trinity. There are not mountains of unequivocal Scripture against the trinity, e.g., every epistle teaches there is only God the Father.

Not much of a student of history, huh? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_and_Indian_War

Hmmm. I was referring to inconsistency in the law and inconsistency of judicial interpretation. Assumed you’d know that.

@RedFan, no point by point rebuttal? Isn’t ignoring all this so typical @face2face, @APAK, @Keiw?