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Gregory of Nyssa: In order to secure that the ransom in our behalf might be easily accepted by him who required it, the Deity was hidden under the veil of our nature, that so, as with ravenous fish, the hook of the Deity might be gulped down along with the bait of flesh, and thus, life being...

To respond with evil for good.....hatred for love. They hated Jesus for no reason. You do realize that Jesus was innocent of any crime yet they crucified Him. John 15:18-27 18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.

To fall on Himself. God is not a masochist. God permitted these things to befall Him. Try to understand that the Lord and the Father are One....the Father did not do anything to the Son...the Son laid His own life down. John 10:18 No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of Myself. I have...

He suffered the contradictions of sinners.

I don't think that authority is understood very well in the church. How did we inherit Adam's sin in the first place? How do we begin in Adam? Through the surrendered authority of Adam to the devil by disobedience to God and the devil replacing Adam as the lord over this world. Consequently we...

You aren't getting the idea that Jesus took OUR abuse...the hatred of a Cain against an Abel. Not God's abuse. Did God kill Abel? No, Cain did. You have a locked in "idée fixe" based on a hypnotic spell from listening to preachers of the heretical notion. You have simply been indoctrinated...

That's what evil men did to Jesus...not God. You have some confusion going on there... God allowed the devil to play his hand...in His weakness He still defeated the devil. God outmaneuvered the devil to bring life to mankind...eternal life and this through the resurrection of the Lord.

But always as a father who chastens his own son. Chastening is with love that sees to the maturing of the one being chastened. God is love.

Heb 12: 7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? Hebrews 12:6 6 For whom the Lord loves He chastens, And scourges every son whom He receives.”

There is a mystery to godliness and what God is attracted to in us. It's an intangible that people can't really quantify because of our nature to destroy or ruin everything we try our hands at. So if we think we see something...we are more likely to get it wrong...since we tend to reason with...

I think Jesus was speaking of the miraculous faith OF Jesus. The kind of faith that moves God to do the impossible.

I am defining faith as per Jesus' definition...the faith that does the works of Jesus. Moving mountains and such.

There are no human words for the true connection with God. There's nothing really to compare that to. The miraculous realm of the Spirit is there. Few will experience it and be able to remain there. And most people today no longer believe in anything they have not already experienced. Faith...

There is a a kind of attitude and spirit that defends itself as righteous even while claiming that all righteousness is as filthy rags....by self-serving human beliefs that justifies their sins and causes them to judge others who sin less than they...but without the self-serving and...

God's judgments are beyond our reasoning. This isn't about saved or unsaved...those are human labels. This is about fitting in with God's will or not. If we claim to be holy and saved then we will be judged against the perfection of Christ. But if we are humble and claim nothing for...

12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots; 13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own...

Actually no...outer darkness is eternal...a different destiny. You might have to expand your old way of thinking to grasp this. Read Jude.

That cuts both ways...read Romans 2. They who do what is right are deemed righteous whether they know God or not. God judges us fairly. Righteous is as righteous does.

Wisdom says that we should learn from the mistake of others. The present day sons of the kingdom are Christians....same sins...same outcome.

That is about maturity...learning to remain in the grace of God. We can only stay in the Spirit as long as we love none other than God. So then our maturity is to love as God loves. This is about righteousness not holiness. There is no sin in holiness...so then no need for more forgiveness...