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  1. Episkopos

    Penal Substitution Theory and the presupposed (eisegesis) definition of מוּסָר in Isaiah 53:5

    Jesus dying for the sins of the whole world gives God the initiative...ALWAYS. God can have mercy even on bad people. But religious people want to judge God and others. They want the initiative. Just as the Pharisees did in their time. But many will be saved on that day that had no idea who...
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    Penal Substitution Theory and the presupposed (eisegesis) definition of מוּסָר in Isaiah 53:5

    The idea of mousar is with the purpose of learning. But you can't make people think!
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    Penal Substitution Theory and the presupposed (eisegesis) definition of מוּסָר in Isaiah 53:5

    You are batting 100 in falsehood. I am in the minority of modern believers who believes that in Christ is no sin. I don't believe we are imprisoned in Christ anymore than we are always to be imprisoned in sins. Salvation is by grace through faith...and we are free to move either way.
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    Penal Substitution Theory and the presupposed (eisegesis) definition of מוּסָר in Isaiah 53:5

    Wrong thinking. The provision of salvation is for all men...but the resurrection is for they who are justified in His life. So you are confusing death with life. AND...you are trying to justify yourself as an individual...but you will be blind to that of course.
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    Penal Substitution Theory and the presupposed (eisegesis) definition of מוּסָר in Isaiah 53:5

    This is false. Jesus died for the sins of the whole world. Are you going to change the bible..or just deny what it says? God judges. It isn't for you to apply the blood of Jesus to yourself or they whom you approve of. How dare you be so arrogant?
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    Penal Substitution Theory and the presupposed (eisegesis) definition of מוּסָר in Isaiah 53:5

    Not by shielding them from God's wrath...but by rescuing them from the jaws of the wolf. Then you aren't understanding the argument. either Jesus died for the whole world OR just for believers. You can't have it both ways. The fact that Jesus died for the sins of the whole world means that...
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    Penal Substitution Theory and the presupposed (eisegesis) definition of מוּסָר in Isaiah 53:5

    Only they who reject Him willfully are under wrath. There are other possibilities for mercy and kindness other than to cast everyone that doesn't believe yet into the fire. Perhaps you have read about the mercy of God? ;)
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    Matthew 7:13-14. Is This A Victory For Satan? So Many Are Going To Be Without God's Love FOREVER!

    If people could only see the difference between survival in salvation...and holiness. Jesus preached holiness. And not everyone can handle holiness...even among believers. It's just too far. But that doesn't mean they will die...it means they can't be the Bride of Christ. But the banquet will...
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    Interpreting Romans 6:23 In Context

    Not so. Just as our sinful state is not permanent but our freedom dictated by entrance into grace...so likewise is the exodus of the sinless state also not permanent because of the possibility of frustrating grace. We can go in and come out again. Otherwise freedom is curtailed and we are...
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    Penal Substitution Theory and the presupposed (eisegesis) definition of מוּסָר in Isaiah 53:5

    Let's try some reasoning and common sense....since spiritual understanding is lacking. ;) Scenario 1: Jesus died ONLY for believers. If that was so it would be written that way...and the reasoning would be that whoever believes in Jesus...well then Jesus retroactively died for THAT person. So...
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    Penal Substitution Theory and the presupposed (eisegesis) definition of מוּסָר in Isaiah 53:5

    And you are engaging in spurious reasoning. :) For this scheme to be true would mean that Jesus died only for believers. But the opposite is true. Jesus died for the sins of the whole world. As in...for God so loved the world...not just the church. ALL men were seen as unbelievers at Jesus'...
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    Penal Substitution Theory and the presupposed (eisegesis) definition of מוּסָר in Isaiah 53:5

    The whole premise of Penal Substitution is false. If the wrath of God was satisfied on the cross of Christ....for ALL men...as the bible says.....then why is there still a great day of wrath coming? Isaiah 13:13 Therefore I will make the heavens tremble, And the earth will be shaken from its...
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    מוּסָר‎ in Deuteronomy 11:2-3

    :) We need prophets in the church....they who are called of God and stand apart from what people want to hear...and only speak from the heart of God. Who wants to see what God is doing? It takes GREAT patience to see that. Imagine watching a flower grow....it takes time...but the results are...
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    מוּסָר‎ in Deuteronomy 11:2-3

    Isaiah 53:5 5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. The chastisement (mousar) of our peace...our understanding of peace...the peace of this world. It was said of Jesus that...
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    מוּסָר‎ in Deuteronomy 11:2-3

    In the synagogue meetings at the time of Jesus there was a time set aside for a "davar mousar"...a word of exhortation. That is when men like Paul would stand up and preach the gospel. Of course today...there is no such input permitted. ;) But neither is there in the institutional churches...
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    Y do U believe what U believe, and do U have good reasons 4 those beliefs? - let's find out.

    You live in your mind and are looking for mind stimulations. But that is not the Spirit...it is a human soul looking for satisfaction...which you won't find.
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    Y do U believe what U believe, and do U have good reasons 4 those beliefs? - let's find out.

    The Spirit brings you to God in an inner peace, love and joy. Holiness is both in a fear and a peace. The devil seeks to confirm you away from God in yourself.
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    Word Study

    People say they are in Christ and still sin. Are you saying that you agree that in Christ is no sin and that they who are in Christ cannot sin? Of course not... ;) It is too biblical to be accepted. Too much based on God rather than human capacity. People tend to put their faith in human...
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    Word Study

    There is a lot that is true in this post except for this qualified statement and the common error of saying that we sin by/in the righteousness of Jesus Christ ...which is a grave error. Jesus doesn't sin...because He is not a minister of sin. God's righteousness is NOT as filthy rags...but ours...
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    Y do U believe what U believe, and do U have good reasons 4 those beliefs? - let's find out.

    Does a person have to believe in gravity in order to fall by it's power? Does that person need to know the word for gravity...as in getting the nomenclature right in order to fall correctly? It is a question of discerning the spiritual from the religious...which in our day few seem able to do.