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Not yet. You are not following the words...the meanings. Is it that you refuse to fear the Lord?

Rom. 11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.

When one sees things backwards the temporal becomes eternal and the eternal becomes temporal. Good appears as evil and evil as good. Jude was specific in his warning as to the eternal destiny of separation from God into outer darkness. But don't take my word for it... Jude 1:10 But these speak...

Amen. He came to model the victorious walk in these mortal bodies...so that when we enter into Him we put on His perfected humanity in the form of grace. So we are to walk IN Him. (this is not spoken of in our time though.)

Salvation is only found in Jesus Christ...not in any church. We never become the owners of salvation to dispense it by our efforts. We never have the riches in Christ for ourselves....they are only found in Him.

The riches of a disciple of Christ are found only in Christ. In this world they are never our own. It's not as if we are receiving payment here for what we have done (rewards) in Christ....or even as a free gift. A servant first serves his master...THEN the master sees to recompensing his...

Yes. Jesus redeems us from being ungodly by a polar shift in our attitude. So we are not to seek to be saved...but rather we seek to lose our lives. Of course the Adamic nature can't understand this let alone do this. How many Christians still reason from the Adamic mindset? In our time...I...

The killing of Jesus Christ was the end of the Jews as being representatives of God on the earth. As we say...it was a game changer. God sought other husbandmen after that. Mark 12 1 And he began to speak unto them by parables. A certain man planted a vineyard, and set an hedge about it, and...

True. The idea is more that we were unknowingly slaves of the devil...not because he forced us...but because that is all we knew. We identified ourselves to his ways. He had us fooled completely. And His trickeries continue in they that still have not learned to know themselves. So then the...

Yes. He offered Himself up to evil men in order to take the hatred of the outward man, which is conformed to selfishness and wickedness, onto Himself. He offered Himself as a lamb among wolves. And He bids us do the same.

Sinning in the flesh is one thing but misrepresenting God is far worse. It's a deeper sin. Just look at how Jesus reacted to the religious status people of His day...compared with the sinners and prostitutes. Will not carnal sinners get into the kingdom quicker than those who claim to be saved...

Too true. But your eloquence and truth will be lost on some here. For God so judged the world???? But these can condemn others while being themselves immune from the same judgment of sinners through a self-righteousness religious status...of course! As in...who cares what happens to...

Yes...as in....the soul that sins...it shall live. Didn't the devil say..."you won't die!" It's all just peace and prosperity! Many see grace as a free pass on sinning. It is called "the gospel OF grace." The real gospel is the gospel ACCORDING to grace. This confusion is due to seeing grace...

Agreed. But God sees better than we do. We are still in the race. It's like being children in our parents' car and we saying ..."are we there yet?" So I'm with you in an earnest expectation of a return into the Spirit. But I also realize there are things to learn about in being humble and...

Nancy if it was up to me...we would all be walking in a miraculous power with newsmen following our every step...with mass conversions and mass worship times. :) But we live in a world where God runs the show. And He is after something specific. Our role in all this is to find...even seemingly...

And that is why this isn't about what we feel about the truth. Letting the truth speak of itself is beneficial. Making comments that have to do with personal advantage or not is counter-productive. So I maintain that what I am testifying of is the truth and fully supported by the word....and...

Hey Nancy! :) If we still have growing to do...then we may be being LED by the Spirit...as in following Jesus from close. But I will maintain that being IN Jesus is beyond following Jesus....it is to not lack anything. It is to put on the new man in the perfect humanity walk of Jesus. It is a...

I don't follow your reasoning... What does that have to do with this thread?

Question: Do I need to feel good about myself when exposed to the truth? Is it wrong to hate myself and my own ways and weaknesses (actually carnal strengths)? Isn't it better to judge ourselves now rather than to be judged later by God? If we would depart from iniquity and seek the Lord...

I see that your momentary weakness brought out the selfish nature in some on this thread. It exposed the motive as something that makes people feel good about themselves...as in...if you feel bad because of the truth then the problem is with the truth. Or worse yet...somebody who is speaking the...