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Do something with it? You've already done something haven't you. You've accepted it as absolute Truth and used it as a source of doubt in the credibility of Moses, and ultimately, the Spirit that inspired him.

Believe it.

That you interpret it at all is your first mistake.

You are in good hands brother.

Where was Adam before he was created? He did not yet exist. But if God gave Adam a soul, and it exists independent of the body, and as such is the "real" Adam and existed prior to entering Adam does that mean Adam pre-existed creation? Prior to his creation the dust of the ground existed, but...

But what about ourselves? "But I am carnal." And therefore in what condition? "Sold under sin." What do we call one who is bought and sold? A slave. What is the evidence that the one who is carnal is a slave? "That which I do, I allow not; for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that...

I dunt believe anything changed, the now then to me means the same as therefore. Paul is describing his former bondage to the carnal 'man', the first husband. Nothing could separate him from this relationship except death. This bondage was a firm of slavery. When a slave, except those totally...

The most erudite comment you've made in this whole discussion.

The experience of Romans 7 is the experience of a convicted but unconverted man. The experience of Romans 8 is that of a converted man with the choice always and the power available to walk in the Spirit.. In the mind of Christ and shunning walking according to the flesh. Walking in the flesh is...

The experience of sanctification whereby we are become new creatures... Loving righteousness and hating sin... Thirsting for truth... Being provided for in every situation, and having had guidance and comfort and support and peace, having the fruit of the Spirit manifest itself in even testing...

Resurrection expected. Millennium rule on earth expected. Christianity has embraced spiritualism. No surprise when relatives long dead start walking the streets. An angel of light counterfeits the second coming. A perfect storm has much of the Christian world speaking intimately with demons...

And the paucity of any other avenue by which to prove his point.

Believe Jesus... Or experience. I believe both. My experience is His doing as a result of believing His promises. I look back on my experiences and see how well and faithfully He has dealt with me in the past, thank Him for His providential care, and use those experiences as a strengthening of...

Like the comment I made to my wife the other night. In a movie a woman arrives from climbing stairs complaining that having to climb 19 floors was hard work, and not to give her a hard time, speaking to another off camera. Behind her a window showing parked cars in amongst trees. My wife hadn't...

It isn't a moral issue. Not is it doctrinal. It's about keeping a clear separation between ourselves and the world. So those male youngsters in your church you would have us use as an example? Who was their example?

And with deceit, cunning, and flattery you continue to encourage the degrading of mankind through your sophistry. You are not representing Christ here, but His arch enemy. Who are you? What do you hope to gain by dragging Christians into a love for the world and it's vain attractions? Are you a...

Thanks for the quotes above @BarnyFife , what a pleasant change to read an inspired beautifully written treatise on the topic.

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I think we could be highly entertained bya thread exposing the "English" explanations/directions/ instructions/advertising on packaging originating in China. I am sure they try hard, but there's that "lost in translation" that manages to sneak its way in there so often that has us all either...

That's an interesting quote. I presume that the highlighted bit are those that you wish to bring to our attention, so let us deal with them shall we. First, I assume the reason you quoted that particular verse is because you think it defends your position that God is A. intending to torment...