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Your fully developed philosophy of life is unable to answer my simple question: IF YOU REQUIRED AN APPENDECTOMY.... TO SAVE YOUR LIFE.... WOULD YOU REFUSE IT.... in support of your philosophy that NOTHING should be done medically because it would be PLAYING GOD. Simple question requires a...

Very tricky of you Niblo. You know that no documentation exists. You divided your question to me in two parts: One was to explain what I meant by extreme left. And the other was to explain why I believe the Pope is joining in the post-modern movement. I think you're getting the two mixed up...

No. Stopping treatment is letting nature take its course. Isn't this what you believe to be correct??

Your stance is really confusing to me....

That's a very extreme view Wrangler. It's all very ideological. What about the practical side? Do you have children? Or even for yourself.... You didn't really answer my question. If you get a pain on your side and require an operation to perform an appendectomy.... You're going to refuse it...

Examples of how Pope Francis is helping along the extreme left. OK And what IS the extreme left.... The extreme left goes beyond ideology and is pushing an agenda and is being very successful at it. In the extreme left there are not only absent any Judeo-Christian values....there are NO VALUES...

Not sure what you mean Wrangler. EVERY medical treatment? You mean if a child falls and gets hurt you aren't going to medicate the area? If you need an appendectomy you're going to refuse it? I hope you mean something different.

Right, there's a lot of politics in this too - just like everything else. I, OTOH, refused some treatment for both my father and my husband.... Definitly for my father who had alzhiemers. Had to make decisions for him and happily for him I was here and he didn't suffer as much as he would have...

Had to go back and read what you had posted. Yes. It seems to me that you're giving the Pope a pass. Does he DESERVE a pass? If the church doesn't stand up for Christian moral values,,,who will? We've degenerated into a society that allows practically everything that is NOT holy. Holy...,.set...

I thought women had the last word ! Anche a te.

You're right John. The above isn't so bad. Sometimes force-feeding a person is detrimental to their health, instead of the other way around. But on other matters, which I have on a different thread re this Pope, he is liberal and has changed doctrine/disciplines and is, as you've put it, trying...

The CC has changed its position on end of life care. It had believed that suspending food and water was equivalent of causing a person's life. It now states that if a person is given food and water - and who could not otherwise ingest normally, the medical treatment can be considered aggressive...

LOL Nothing serious Amigo. Nothing to concern yourself with. @Johann and I agree on practically everything. I just don't have a lot of time to post and I like my posting to be very personal toward the other member. That's all. No se preocupa...

I'm no fool Johann. And I'm not expressing an opinion on these forums. I post what I believe and back it up with scripture. I've made my position known. If you prefer to post in some unknown way TO ME.... then I just want you to know I won't be replying. Shalom to you too. Amici come prima.

Of course it's bad news. And the RCC accepted what he taught and then managed to explain his ideas in a different way to try to get out of unscriptural teachings. But until recently, Catholics STILL were baptizing their babies because they believed that they'd otherwise go to hell. So Augustine...

You can post however you want to Johann. BUT the way you post makes it seem like YOU are creating the dialogue when, apparently, you are not. Maybe you're posting from books...maybe entire paragraphs from Google info, maybe from chatgpt. I don't know. BUT I thought I was speaking to YOU and I...

I'm not sure why you're posting the above Amigo. I just don't understand to what you're replying. confused

I'm going to be having difficulty posting to you. I like to post to persons that speak from their own knowledge. I even dislike copy and paste. I take time with my responses and like to have a real conversation. I don't enjoy speaking to programs. Now, if you're going to tell me you have some...

Neither.

His views were accepted because he was very influential and served the church well for that time period. His debate with Pelagius had a lot to do with his coming to a powerful position. NO ONE else believed as he did. Heretical means believing something that is not accepted by the mainstream...