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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I agree. He is most at home hurling ad hominem. He got demolished in the ECFs thread and he is smarting sore with bitterness toward me.
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Jesus said in Matthew 24:35-44: “Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that were...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    LOL. I know. Premil logic. It is shocking beyond belief.
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Premils are so blinkered by what they have been taught that they cannot see the figurative import of a thousand in Scripture. To accept that would instantly blow their beliefs out of the water. 10, 100, 1,000 and 10,000 are often used as round figures in Scripture to describe greater truths. We...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    According to who? When is this Great Tribulation and how long does it last?
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    The Church has been in tribulation since the stoning of Stephen.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Revelation 20:4 says, “Blessed and holy is he that hath part (present active particle) in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be (plural future middle indicative) priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign (plural future middle indicative) with him a...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Amil is built on safer ground. Amil is built upon corroboration. Multiple strong and repeated Scriptures on each tenet of that position proves that doctrine. Let us discuss some of the water-tight support Amil enjoys for its understanding of Rev 20. Much Scripture proves that Jesus is "the...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You have been telling me what you have been taught by man for years and not what the Bible says. When someone gets saved they enter into the kingdom of God, which is a spiritual kingdom and incorporates the whole domain over-which the Lord Jesus Christ exercises spiritual control. This kingship...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Revelation 19 is climactic. It is the end of the world. Revelation 20 starts the 7th of 7 parallels. Premils cannot or will not see that because it decimates their teaching. Revelation 19:11-16 makes clear, “And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Exactly. This is the hidden history of Christendom.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    The only thing "highly debatable", "precarious frayed thread", or "dubious" are your beliefs.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Why did you not read what he said? You deliberately twist his comments. Shame on you!
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Premil is totally preoccupied with, and dependent upon, one chapter in the Bible – Revelation 20. It interprets the rest of Scripture in the light of its opinion of one lone highly-debated chapter located in the most figurative and obscure book in the Bible. All end-time Scripture is viewed...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Christ and the New Testament writers only recognize two overriding ages in their teaching – “this world/age” and “the world/age to come.” One is current, corrupt and temporal and the other is impending, perfect and eternal. One refers to mortal life on earth in the here-and-now, and the other...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Early Christian millennialism was heavily influenced by the prevailing Jewish apocryphal literature existing around 200 BC to AD 100. These included the Jewish apocalyptic works of the Book of Enoch, the Apocalypse of Baruch, the Babylonian Talmud: Tractate Sanhedrin (Folio 97a), 4th Esdras, the...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Not so. Joseph Smith invented his own book. Now, please address the evidence! The early Premil heretics are describing your beliefs. You have no orthodox writers until AD 240. Why not admit that? When you finally got a Premil from over 200 years after the cross - Lacantius, you (ill-advisedly)...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    By saying all this, you are admitting (what the rest of us can see): that my thesis in the Op is actually right. You have nothing of historic value to bring to the discussion. That is why it is pointless engaging with you. Why waste your time presenting your own theology? We know what you...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    LOL. Facts are stubborn things! They show the source of your beliefs. You duck around the evidence like a chicken on a hot griddle. It is funny to watch!